• Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020

    From Nightfox@21:1/137 to All on Monday, July 27, 2020 22:34:31
    For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is being released in 4K on October 20:
    https://bit.ly/32ZaDv0

    Full URL: https://www.backtothefuture.com/news/2020/7/27/back-to-the-future-the-ultimate-
    trilogy-heads-to-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-dvd

    Nightfox
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  • From PalKat@21:4/137 to Nightfox on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 19:49:52
    On 27 Jul 2020, Nightfox said the following...

    For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is being released in 4K on October 20:

    SWEET! Now they need to update Die Hard too! ;)

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Nightfox on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 20:30:46

    For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is being released in 4K on October 20:
    https://bit.ly/32ZaDv0

    Full URL: https://www.backtothefuture.com/news/2020/7/27/back-to-the-future-t he-ultimate- trilogy-heads-to-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-dvd

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    8K will be next.

    $ The Millionaire $

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to PalKat on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 23:47:02
    For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is bei released in 4K on October 20:

    SWEET! Now they need to update Die Hard too! ;)

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to The Millionaire on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 22:49:38
    Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
    By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Tue Jul 28 2020 08:30 pm

    For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is
    being released in 4K on October 20:
    https://bit.ly/32ZaDv0

    8K will be next.

    Probably, but perhaps not for a while. I think very few people even have an 8K
    TV right now. Some people still have only a 1080p TV. I just bought a 4K TV 5
    years ago, so I haven't had mine all that long.

    I have seen some 8K content on YouTube though, and I think I've seen some 8K TVs on display in electronics stores.

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Nightfox on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 14:26:55
    On 28 Jul 2020, Nightfox said the following...

    Probably, but perhaps not for a while. I think very few people even
    have an 8K TV right now. Some people still have only a 1080p TV.

    Our TV is "only" 1080, which we got back around 2013. This one replaced our old 480p plasma that was getting too dark to watch during the day.

    I really don't see a need up upgrade to 4k when what he have works and looks perfectly fine. Back then it was hard to find a TV with more than 3 HDMI ports.

    Jay

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Warpslide on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:31:15
    Re: Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
    By: Warpslide to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 02:26 pm

    Probably, but perhaps not for a while. I think very few people even
    have an 8K TV right now. Some people still have only a 1080p TV.

    Our TV is "only" 1080, which we got back around 2013. This one replaced our old 480p plasma that was getting too dark to watch during the day.

    Perhaps I could have worded that differently - I didn't intend to talk badly about 1080p TVs.
    In 2015 I bought my first "large" TV for a living room when I bought my house, and as I was buying a new TV, I figured I'd go for a 4K. 1080p TVs of the same
    size do look good too though.

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Nightfox on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 17:40:53
    On 29 Jul 2020, Nightfox said the following...

    Our TV is "only" 1080, which we got back around 2013. This one replac our old 480p plasma that was getting too dark to watch during the day

    Perhaps I could have worded that differently - I didn't intend to talk badly about 1080p TVs.

    LOL, I didn't take it badly. I just remember standing in a Best Buy once in awe of how beautiful 1080p looked thinking "it looks so real, I can't imagine it looking any better!" and now people are talking about 8K TVs.

    Jay

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Warpslide on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 18:02:27
    Re: Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
    By: Warpslide to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 05:40 pm

    On 29 Jul 2020, Nightfox said the following...

    Our TV is "only" 1080, which we got back around 2013. This one
    replac our old 480p plasma th
    was getting too dark to watch during the day

    Perhaps I could have worded that differently - I didn't intend to talk
    badly about 1080p TVs.

    LOL, I didn't take it badly. I just remember standing in a Best Buy once in
    awe of how beautiful 1080
    looked thinking "it looks so real, I can't imagine it looking any better!"
    and now people are talking
    about 8K TVs.

    Jay

    Yes, that happened with DVD too.

    Now you have snobs telling you that DVD looks like utter manure.

    Something I find of concern is that there seems to be an arms race for TV size.
    They are making them
    bigger each day.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Warpslide on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 16:16:00
    Re: Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
    By: Warpslide to Nightfox on Wed Jul 29 2020 05:40 pm

    LOL, I didn't take it badly. I just remember standing in a Best Buy once in awe of how beautiful 1080p looked thinking "it looks so real, I can't imagine it looking any better!" and now people are talking about 8K TVs.

    Sometimes I think a screen has to be prettyy big in order to easily tell the difference between 1080 and 4K, especially if you're sitting even 10 feet away.

    I have a 4K PC monitor (mainly for photo & video editing etc.) and I've been able to tell differences in quality between traditional upscaled 1080p and 4K of the same image with it, but naturally I'm only sitting a couple feet from my
    PC monitor.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Arelor on Wednesday, July 29, 2020 21:20:00
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Wednesday 29.07.20 - 18:02, Arelor wrote to Warpslide:

    ..I just remember standing in a Best Buy once in awe of how beautiful
    1080 looked thinking "it looks so real, I can't imagine it looking any
    better!" and now people are talking about 8K TVs.

    Jay

    Yes, that happened with DVD too.

    Now you have snobs telling you that DVD looks like utter manure.

    Depends on the size of screen. DVD looks quite fine on my 32" LCD screen
    at a 12' viewing distance. But a DVD on a 42" screen starts to reveal some pixelation ..and you would probably want to sit back further when the
    screen is larger.


    Something I find of concern is that there seems to be an arms race for
    TV size. They are making them bigger each day.

    Who is buying these uber-large screens? I thought the trend for homes was downsizing.


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Warpslide on Thursday, July 30, 2020 01:50:58
    LOL, I didn't take it badly. I just remember standing in a Best Buy
    once in awe of how beautiful 1080p looked thinking "it looks so real, I can't imagine it looking any better!" and now people are talking about
    8K TVs.

    I _still_ think (ish, anyway) about 1080p, because most of the time I'm watching Youtube at 360p.

    But the sooner it's reasonable to stream 8k, the sooner detestable Internet providers will have higher limits on home broadband connections.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Arelor on Thursday, July 30, 2020 01:53:14
    Something I find of concern is that there seems to be an arms race for
    TV size. They are making them
    bigger each day.

    They won't be too big until they weigh more than a 36" CRT TV, I imagine.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Warpslide on Thursday, July 30, 2020 13:16:00
    Probably, but perhaps not for a while. I think very few people even have an 8K TV right now. Some people still have only a 1080p TV.

    Our TV is "only" 1080, which we got back around 2013. This one replaced our old 480p plasma that was getting too dark to watch during the
    day.

    Yeah, I only bought a new TV erm... some time ago, it's only 720p or 1080i, I can't see any 4k upgrade coming soon. Let alone 8k which apparently has issues with the human condition. Once you get the resolution that high the eyeball starts to have trouble with what its seeing and images start to look like they're flattened out like a cartoon. I'm sure they'll get over it at some point. But the point here is, there's only so much the eye can see, its not going to matter to a "viewer" if the resolution is any higher or not. While in other areas, say security, it might be a good thing to be able to keep zooming in on something for more and more detail. Of course you have the next issue of
    storing all the data.

    Spec


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  • From Tiny@21:1/130 to Spectre on Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:25:56
    Spectre wrote to Warpslide <=-

    Yeah, I only bought a new TV erm... some time ago, it's only 720p or 1080i, I can't see any 4k upgrade coming soon. Let alone 8k which

    I just bought a 1080 tv 5 months ago. LOL Friend upgraded and sold me
    his for the right price. To us it looks amazing.

    Shawn

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to Ogg on Thursday, July 30, 2020 06:04:16
    Re: Back To The Future 4K coming October 20, 2020
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Wed Jul 29 2020 09:20 pm

    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Wednesday 29.07.20 - 18:02, Arelor wrote to Warpslide:

    ..I just remember standing in a Best Buy once in awe of how beautiful
    1080 looked thinking "it looks so real, I can't imagine it looking any
    better!" and now people are talking about 8K TVs.

    Jay

    Yes, that happened with DVD too.

    Now you have snobs telling you that DVD looks like utter manure.

    Depends on the size of screen. DVD looks quite fine on my 32" LCD screen
    at a 12' viewing distance. But a DVD on a 42" screen starts to reveal some pixelation ..and you would probably want to sit back further when the
    screen is larger.


    Something I find of concern is that there seems to be an arms race for TV size. They are making them bigger each day.

    Who is buying these uber-large screens? I thought the trend for homes was downsizing.

    So I used to think, until I realize everyone of my fiends has a bigger TV each tim I
    pay them a visit.

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Ogg on Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:43:39
    On 29 Jul 2020, Ogg said the following...

    Who is buying these uber-large screens? I thought the trend for homes
    was downsizing.

    I think it depends. We have a 42" LCD which is more than fine for us.

    A visit to the grandparents last weekend revealed their new 60" super thin
    LED TV. That thing is huge, but I guess when you're 88 a screen that large
    may be easier to see.

    Side Note: My grandpa has this fancy schmancy new hearing aid that has built
    in bluetooth. So my grandma was sitting there reading a book while my
    grandpa was watching TV and the room was completely silent. It's paired to
    his iPhone as well.

    Jay

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Thursday, July 30, 2020 09:00:00
    Adept wrote to Warpslide <=-

    I _still_ think (ish, anyway) about 1080p, because most of the time I'm watching Youtube at 360p.

    I'm going to start getting spoiled. I ended up with a 55" 4K Roku TV
    and watched Avengers: Endgame in 4K (it was the first 4K movie I
    could find)

    Then, going back to watch old TV series in what looked like 480p seemed
    hard to watch.



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  • From Tiny@21:1/130 to Warpslide on Friday, July 31, 2020 08:38:14
    Warpslide wrote to Ogg <=-

    Side Note: My grandpa has this fancy schmancy new hearing aid that has built in bluetooth. So my grandma was sitting there reading a book
    while my grandpa was watching TV and the room was completely silent.
    It's paired to his iPhone as well.

    That is so cool. My Mom just got her hearing aids. She turns them
    off so she doesn't have to listen to Dad. LOL I called the other day
    and she said "One sec, I can't hear you. - Okay start over, had them
    off as he was bitching."

    Shawn

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Adept on Friday, July 31, 2020 20:57:00
    On 07-30-20 01:50, Adept wrote to Warpslide <=-

    But the sooner it's reasonable to stream 8k, the sooner detestable Internet providers will have higher limits on home broadband
    connections.

    Mine's unlimited, can't go any higher than that. ;)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Warpslide on Friday, July 31, 2020 09:35:00
    Warpslide wrote to Ogg <=-

    Side Note: My grandpa has this fancy schmancy new hearing aid that has built in bluetooth. So my grandma was sitting there reading a book
    while my grandpa was watching TV and the room was completely silent.
    It's paired to his iPhone as well.

    Ok, that's totally cyborg.

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Vk3jed on Friday, July 31, 2020 22:56:06
    Mine's unlimited, can't go any higher than that. ;)

    Yeah. In my experience, municipal broadband is the best. Then next is any company that doesn't have strong ties to any of the Baby Bells or large cable companies.

    It's nice when "not Comcast" or their ilk is an option.

    I kinda forget what I had in Germany. I think it was Deutsch Telekom, so big phone company. I don't know if the Germans are any better at having non-terrible telecoms, though.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Adept on Saturday, August 01, 2020 13:55:00
    I kinda forget what I had in Germany. I think it was Deutsch Telekom, so big phone company. I don't know if the Germans are any better at
    having non-terrible telecoms, though.

    I don't really know either, but a, being large, and b, being a government entity you'd have to think they'd be slowish to get things done. Back in the 90's we used to get intermittent contact with the odd german. They tended not to like DT, nominally terribly expensive and generally poor quality. But thats 30 years ago, and things will have changed, for the better or worse I dunno.

    Spec


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Spectre on Saturday, August 01, 2020 07:07:27
    I don't really know either, but a, being large, and b, being a government entity you'd have to think they'd be slowish to get things done. Back

    Oh, yeah, I suppose I do remember that it was a, "schedule an installation" sort of thing, and it was not under any definition of "soon" that I'd accept.

    So I assume they're bad on that count, but not sure about their rules for
    using the service once you actually have the service.

    But, living in a different country where one has only a tenuous grasp of the language, it's always a bit risky that there'll be some aspect that you don't really understand.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Adept on Saturday, August 01, 2020 19:30:00
    On 07-31-20 22:56, Adept wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Mine's unlimited, can't go any higher than that. ;)

    Yeah. In my experience, municipal broadband is the best. Then next is
    any company that doesn't have strong ties to any of the Baby Bells or large cable companies.

    It's nice when "not Comcast" or their ilk is an option.

    And ALL of that is rather irrelevant to me, because of the reminder equation "US != World". :P

    My ISP was a mid tier, but they've been bought out twice and are now part of the 3rd or 4th largest ISP here in Australia. However, they seem to have kept their character and performance. If, for some reason, I have to switch, there is another ISP who I would jump to, who are a bit smaller, but have a lot of good reviews.

    I kinda forget what I had in Germany. I think it was Deutsch Telekom,
    so big phone company. I don't know if the Germans are any better at
    having non-terrible telecoms, though.

    Our problem here is the government botched the NBN installation, and went for a dodgy and already obsolete FTTN system, when FTTP would have been a "do it properly, do it once" solution.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 01, 2020 21:46:00
    Our problem here is the government botched the NBN installation, and went for a dodgy and already obsolete FTTN system, when FTTP would have

    You realise they backtracked because the original plan was so far behind schedule the whole thing would be obsolete and the year 2075 before they finished? As it is, I still couldn't get NBN until last year....

    Spec


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 01, 2020 18:40:57
    And ALL of that is rather irrelevant to me, because of the reminder equation "US != World". :P

    Indeed. :)

    Forgive me, in this case, due to the large amount of pain that the telcos
    have caused in the US.

    I'd mention possible causes, but I'd probably start a political rant. :)

    My ISP was a mid tier, but they've been bought out twice and are now
    part of the 3rd or 4th largest ISP here in Australia. However, they

    I did think that Australia was a fairly good equivalent to the US on
    broadband, since it's _so_ spread out, thus it's not quite as easy for there
    to be amazing things like I occasionally hear about for South Korea or Japan.

    But there are a lot of other considerations that are important that have nothing to do with geography, so reading about your experience is interesting.

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  • From Immortal@21:1/185 to Nightfox on Saturday, August 01, 2020 16:14:12
    On 27 Jul 2020, Nightfox said the following...

    For fans of Back To The Future: The Back To The Future trilogy is being released in 4K on October 20:
    https://bit.ly/32ZaDv0

    Great Scott!

    Immortal

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  • From Andre@21:3/117 to Vk3jed on Saturday, August 01, 2020 17:32:15
    On 01 Aug 2020, Vk3jed said the following...

    And ALL of that is rather irrelevant to me, because of the reminder equation "US != World". :P

    "History began in 1776... Everything before that was a mistake." -Ron Swanson


    Andre

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sunday, August 02, 2020 21:36:00
    On 08-01-20 21:46, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Our problem here is the government botched the NBN installation, and went for a dodgy and already obsolete FTTN system, when FTTP would have

    You realise they backtracked because the original plan was so far
    behind schedule the whole thing would be obsolete and the year 2075
    before they finished? As it is, I still couldn't get NBN until last year....

    The thing with fibre is the limits are what's o the ends of it, unlike copper, which is a major limitation in itself. It's telling, when I can literally look out the window and see the node less than 100m down the road (admittedly, the pillar is another 30-40m further away, adding double that distance to the run), and I don't get the full 100Mbps sync speed (it's usually around the low 90s).

    A friend (sadly passed away) couldn't even get ADSL speeds out of his FTTN. I think it synced at something like 10-14/1, and he had to go for the 12/1 plan, which was OK for him, but would have pissed me off.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Adept on Sunday, August 02, 2020 21:43:00
    On 08-01-20 18:40, Adept wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    And ALL of that is rather irrelevant to me, because of the reminder equation "US != World". :P

    Indeed. :)

    Forgive me, in this case, due to the large amount of pain that the
    telcos have caused in the US.

    Yeah, I have heard volumes about the telco woes over there.

    I'd mention possible causes, but I'd probably start a political rant.
    :)

    Probably $$$$ LOL

    My ISP was a mid tier, but they've been bought out twice and are now
    part of the 3rd or 4th largest ISP here in Australia. However, they

    I did think that Australia was a fairly good equivalent to the US on broadband, since it's _so_ spread out, thus it's not quite as easy for there to be amazing things like I occasionally hear about for South
    Korea or Japan.

    Well, Australia's telco history is a bit sordid at times. I've lived through the transition from a covernment monopoly (PMG, then Telecom Australia), to today's mostly privatised setup (The NBN is still in government hands)/

    There were many years, before the NBN, where Telstra, which is the privatised version of Telecom Australia had their own retail part in competition with all the other telcos, but they owned almost all of the infrastructure. This remained the case, until the NBN was rolled out over the past decade and a bit.

    It's not perfect, but at least I can choose from a large number of telcos and ISPs to deliver service down the NBN pipeline. And I can change fairly quickly through a process called "churning". On my end, all I have to do is wait until the service drops dead, then either swap routers or reconfigure my router for the new ISP.

    But there are a lot of other considerations that are important that
    have nothing to do with geography, so reading about your experience is interesting.

    Yes, the biggest factors seem to be politics and economics. :/


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Vk3jed on Sunday, August 02, 2020 22:18:35
    Probably $$$$ LOL

    Hah! Yeah, I assume that's pretty much always the issue, in one way or
    another.

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Warpslide on Sunday, August 02, 2020 15:44:00
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Thursday 30.07.20 - 11:43, Warpslide wrote to Ogg:

    Who is buying these uber-large screens? I thought the trend for homes
    was downsizing.

    I think it depends. We have a 42" LCD which is more than fine for us.

    I know a fellow who was convinced to aquired a floor-model of a 52" (the price was right) ..and he sits barely 4' away from it to watch! He's not blind.. it just seems there is no other place to accomodate the beast elsewhere in his cabin home.


    A visit to the grandparents last weekend revealed their new 60" super
    thin LED TV. That thing is huge, but I guess when you're 88 a screen
    that large may be easier to see.

    Some grandparents want to pull out all the stops so that a large family
    can enjoy watching something on the screen together.

    I read there is a theoretical comfort zone based on the screen size and
    the viewing distance.

    Largest window in my house is right across from me, 6' away. The window
    is 48" across. Although a large window provides a nice view of the
    outside world, 6' is too close to focus on the glass and study all the
    dirt and cobwebs comfortably! LOL.

    My tv is a modest 32". I am parked at about 8' at the furthest point to
    find viewing comfortable. Any further away, then it would feel that I am looking at a postage stamp.


    Side Note: My grandpa has this fancy schmancy new hearing aid that has built in bluetooth. So my grandma was sitting there reading a book
    while my grandpa was watching TV and the room was completely silent.
    It's paired to his iPhone as well.

    Good to hear that he's not afraid of technology.

    I have an aunt who I could never convince to get into BBSing because she "heard" that CRT monitors emitted dangerous rays when seated so close. Meanwhile her hearing has diminished quite a bit, and she refuses to get hearing aids because she thinks that she would look terrible. However, she has warmed up to using a headset for the phone. She warns me not to
    reminder her that the headset messes up her hair and looks far more techie than than a hearing aide would look hidden by her hair. LOL. But the headset is wired and she needs to be careful not to catch it on something when she moves. Considering that she practically wears the headset all day and spends hours on the phone, she would certainly benefit from a hearing aide that could also answer the phone.

    I have a neighbor friend who has an earpiece that primarily functions as a hearing aide, but he can also answer the phone from anywhere in the house
    and even give a shout out to his wife over the intercom system if he needs something.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Andre on Monday, August 03, 2020 18:59:00
    On 08-01-20 17:32, Andre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 01 Aug 2020, Vk3jed said the following...

    And ALL of that is rather irrelevant to me, because of the reminder equation "US != World". :P

    "History began in 1776... Everything before that was a mistake." -Ron Swanson

    Haha, yeah right. There's people who would definitely refute that.... by over 60,000 years. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Adept on Monday, August 03, 2020 19:00:00
    On 08-02-20 22:18, Adept wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Probably $$$$ LOL

    Hah! Yeah, I assume that's pretty much always the issue, in one way or another.

    Yep, most things come back to money. :/


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Monday, August 03, 2020 08:19:00
    The thing with fibre is the limits are what's o the ends of it, unlike

    Not entirely true, we've had different quality of fibre, just like there's been everything to far up to cat6... so you won't quite convince me of that, although it's likely to have a far longer lifespan than the remaining copper.

    A friend (sadly passed away) couldn't even get ADSL speeds out of his FTTN. I think it synced at something like 10-14/1, and he had to go

    That's I think the worst I've ever heard, in which case they need to do something about the copper on the end too, but if you're going to that you might as well finish the fibre. Replace it as it becomes unviable. I can see the attraction to using the copper on the subscriber end though most of it would probably be the newest of the copper out there.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Tuesday, August 04, 2020 20:55:00
    On 08-03-20 08:19, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-
    A friend (sadly passed away) couldn't even get ADSL speeds out of his FTTN. I think it synced at something like 10-14/1, and he had to go

    That's I think the worst I've ever heard, in which case they need to do something about the copper on the end too, but if you're going to that

    I think his real issue was the node was a long way away. I never located it myself, but he said it was like several blocks away, so he was on a very long line.

    you might as well finish the fibre. Replace it as it becomes unviable.
    I can see the attraction to using the copper on the subscriber end
    though most of it would probably be the newest of the copper out there.

    His estate was fairly new (1990s at least), so the copper should have been in better shape than here (1940s or earlier). I think NBNCo were being a bit tightarse with deploying nodes. :/


    ... OF COURSE I'm on topic! (Which conference is this?)
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