• British Police Shows

    From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to All on Thursday, July 30, 2020 18:34:23
    OK, on every British police show I have ever seen, the officers are rarely armed. They usually call in an armed unit (like a SWAT team) when they are facing armed bad gues.

    DCI Banks, Inspector Lewis, Scott and Bailey... the cops are rarely armed.

    So, I have seen one episode of a show called Bulletproof. Maybe the name should
    have given it away, but it seems much more like an American cop show. Plainclothes and SWAT-type cops, they are all armed and shooting.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Dumas Walker on Friday, July 31, 2020 09:39:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to All <=-

    OK, on every British police show I have ever seen, the officers are
    rarely armed. They usually call in an armed unit (like a SWAT team)
    when they are facing armed bad gues.

    I love how every TV show, regardless of country of origin, depends on
    an expository suspect. "I'm going to get into an interrogation room
    and reveal the next few plot points by talking non-stop."

    No one ever asks for an attorney to be present.

    DCI Banks, Inspector Lewis, Scott and Bailey... the cops are rarely
    armed.

    And when there's an armed standoff, it's a 70 year old war veteran
    that the town called "The Colonel" with a 12 gauge double-barrel
    shotgun, holding off 12 coppers.

    have given it away, but it seems much more like an American cop show. Plainclothes and SWAT-type cops, they are all armed and shooting.

    That would ruin the show's nature. I joked that in a recent episode
    of Father Brown it took 25 minutes to see a body. On Castle, they
    show a body in the cold open, before the credits!



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, July 31, 2020 22:48:14
    I love how every TV show, regardless of country of origin, depends on
    an expository suspect. "I'm going to get into an interrogation room
    and reveal the next few plot points by talking non-stop."

    You mentioned Castle later, and on that point I remember there being some
    lady (sex-work club owner or something. I forget.) who didn't talk, requested
    a lawyer, and turned out to be innocent.

    But, of course, lawyering up was viewed as being an admission of guilt rather than just what any sane person should do, if at all possible.

    of Father Brown it took 25 minutes to see a body. On Castle, they
    show a body in the cold open, before the credits!

    I watched Castle up through when somebody got in a car crash or something as
    a season finale. At which point I realized that it had fully entered soap
    opera territory and that I no longer cared about what happened to the characters.

    Love for Captain Tight Pants can only go so far. (Nathon Fillion, of Firefly fame, for those wondering.)

    But more to the actual subject, I've tended to like all the various Sherlock Holmes shows. And like Sherlock Holmes (and similar things, as I also listen
    to the Great Detectives of Old-Time Radio) the most when there's some sort of mystery that _doesn't_ involve murder.

    Because murder in detective shows is _boring_. At least when at least one person ends up dead every week.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Adept on Saturday, August 01, 2020 13:51:00
    You mentioned Castle later, and on that point I remember there being some lady (sex-work club owner or something. I forget.) who didn't talk, requested a lawyer, and turned out to be innocent.

    I was watching something on youtuba the other day, that was saying if you're ever hauled in for questioning the last thing you want to do is say anything. Doesn't matter if you're guilty or innocent. Innocent people have been convicted for making genuine mistakes in their stories. The fact you're read rights doesn't protect you from anything, just the officers arresting you. Nothing you tell them will be admissable in a court it can only be used against you. Soo you're better off saying nothing. And went on to cite a couple of cases some fairly strange where just the above had happened.

    Oh the above was put forward by an ex-police officer and some kind of law academic. Not that I know anything more about either individual.

    Spec


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Spectre on Saturday, August 01, 2020 07:04:28
    court it can only be used against you. Soo you're better off saying nothing. And went on to cite a couple of cases some fairly strange
    where just the above had happened.

    I think I watched that video, though I think it's the sort of thing that's
    been echoed in a variety of different locations. Mostly because it's not like people do themselves any harm by waiting for a lawyer to be present (other
    than the cost of a lawyer, I imagine).

    But people can do themselves _plenty_ of harm by saying something.

    Regardless, I hope to never be in a situation where that matters.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Adept on Saturday, August 01, 2020 09:17:00
    Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I watched Castle up through when somebody got in a car crash or
    something as a season finale. At which point I realized that it had
    fully entered soap opera territory and that I no longer cared about
    what happened to the characters.

    I want to get the first season on DVD/BR; when he was still a writer
    and he was an outsider, it had a good flow to it.

    Love for Captain Tight Pants can only go so far. (Nathon Fillion, of Firefly fame, for those wondering.)


    I loved when he dressed up as a "Space Cowboy" for Halloween and his
    daughter told him there weren't cows in space.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g42UxfB6MI

    But more to the actual subject, I've tended to like all the various Sherlock Holmes shows. And like Sherlock Holmes (and similar things, as
    I also listen to the Great Detectives of Old-Time Radio) the most when there's some sort of mystery that _doesn't_ involve murder.

    I'm trying to remember the original stories; I read them some time
    ago and still have them on my shelf; Holmes even left some mysteries
    "unsolved" when it reflected poorly on him, but when he knew that
    uncovering the truth would cause more harm than letting sleeping dogs
    lie.

    Time to go back and read my old dog-eared copies. They were my go-to
    vacation books for about 15 years.

    Because murder in detective shows is _boring_. At least when at least
    one person ends up dead every week.

    It's easy. All I know is if I'm invited to an English country
    village's annual garden party or Angela Lansbury calls to crash on my
    couch, I'm going to be out of town at the time. Someone always dies.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Spectre on Saturday, August 01, 2020 10:43:00
    Spectre wrote to Adept <=-

    I was watching something on youtuba the other day, that was saying if you're ever hauled in for questioning the last thing you want to do is
    say anything. Doesn't matter if you're guilty or innocent. Innocent people have been convicted for making genuine mistakes in their
    stories. The fact you're read rights doesn't protect you from
    anything, just the officers arresting you. Nothing you tell them will
    be admissable in a court it can only be used against you. Soo you're better off saying nothing. And went on to cite a couple of cases some fairly strange where just the above had happened.

    Oh the above was put forward by an ex-police officer and some kind of
    law academic. Not that I know anything more about either individual.

    I've seen that guy, if I think we're talking about the same person.
    Same goes with traffic tickets. Don't answer any questions,
    don't admit guilt, smile, take the ticket. Fight it in court.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, August 01, 2020 18:54:17
    I loved when he dressed up as a "Space Cowboy" for Halloween and his
    daughter told him there weren't cows in space.

    That's pretty cool. Nice low-key reference.

    I'm trying to remember the original stories; I read them some time

    They were good. Though occasionally brings home how various quirks in other shows don't really make sense with those characters as Conan Doyle wrote them.

    But I'm not a purist. Well, okay, that's probably not accurate, but I'm not overly picky in my ability to enjoy detective stories of that sort.

    It's easy. All I know is if I'm invited to an English country
    village's annual garden party or Angela Lansbury calls to crash on my
    couch, I'm going to be out of town at the time. Someone always dies.

    What's unfortunate about that, is by announcing that you wouldn't be going somewhere because of Angela Lansbury showing up, likely would mean that you'd end up murdered because of not going.

    The literary monster pursues to the ends of the Earth.

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