Black Panther wrote to Al <=-

On 22 Dec 2019, Al said the following...

Yep, there are some dupes coming through from him. Avon changed over to HPT mail tosser, like hub 4 is, and it doesn't remove the soft CRs like Mystic does...

I haven't seen any dupes (recently) in net 4. My guess is that ryan is seeing th em arrive in net 1 changed via net 2. :(

Yes, now the Paul changed Hub 1 over to HPT, these messages are now getting duped in net 1. :(

So I guess BZ&BZ BBS is lucky then I have 22 dupes today.

Take Care,
Beanzilla

... Internal Error: The system has been taken over by sheep at line 2300
___ MultiMail/Linux v0.49

--- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A43 2019/03/02 (Linux/64)
* Origin: BZ&BZ BBS (21:4/110)

Hi troops.

Not sure why but it looks like a system (Fido?) connected to Monterey BBS has tossed a bunch of dated packets back through this fsxNet node and onto NET
1 and beyond. More detective works follows...

MIS and MUTIL logging shows


+ 2020.03.03 21:32:29 4-Polling 21:1/168 on slot 4 via BINKP
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:29 4-Connecting to montereybbs.com on port 24554
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:30 4-Connected by IPV4 to 206.189.76.25
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:30 4-System monterey
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:30 4-SysOp ryan
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:30 4-Info TIME Tue, 03 Mar 2020 00:32:35 -0800
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:30 4-Mailer Mystic/1.12A45 binkp/1.0
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:30 4-Info BUILD 2020/02/18 21:23:34 Linux/64
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:31 4-Sending: 0000ffbc.tup (1,028 bytes)
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:31 4-Remote Queue: 11 files 20,952,080 bytes
+ 2020.03.03 21:32:31 4-Receiving: 00000044.tu0 (1,920,040 bytes)

[snip]

+ Mar 03 21:33:05 Extracting 00000044.tu0
- Mar 03 21:33:05 unzip -oqqjC "c:\mystfsx\echomail\in\00000044.tu0"
"*.pkt" -d c:\mystfsx\temputil\
+ Mar 03 21:33:05 Importing 01cc4deb.pkt (21:1/168 to 21:1/100)

[snip]

+ Mar 03 21:43:12 Results: 4112 echo, 0 net, 24110 dupes, 438824 tossed in 607.87s
+ Mar 03 21:43:12 Shutdown Normal (0)

Guess we can say MUTIL works :)

g00r00 - I'm not sure how to combat a dupe wave such as this but any ideas appreciated. It doesn't happen often but when it does I need a surf board to ride it :)

Looking at a dupe'd message the PATH shows up as

From: Al
To: NuSkooler
Subj: binkps
Date: 12/14/19 15:43
Base: General Chat

@TZUTC: -0800
@MSGID: 21:4/106 5df57641
@REPLY: 183373.fsx_gen@21:1/121 13f7cded
@TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2019-12-05
@RESCANNED 21:4/122
@CHRS: UTF-8 2
@SEEN-BY: 1/1 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 @SEEN-BY: 1/116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 133 @SEEN-BY: 1/134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 152 @SEEN-BY: 1/153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 @SEEN-BY: 1/171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 @SEEN-BY: 1/189 190 191 192 193 194 195 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 @SEEN-BY: 1/207 208 209 995 999 10/0 1 2/100 218/0 1 700 820 3/100 4/100 5/100 @PATH: 218/700 1/168 100

Note the RESCANNED kludge which points to Kurt's realitycheckBBS and the Fidonet Node also checks out.

My assumption is some rescan went really bad :)

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Not sure why but it looks like a system (Fido?) connected to Monterey
BBS has tossed a bunch of dated packets back through this fsxNet node
and onto NET 1 and beyond. More detective works follows...

Yeah, my fault, really sorry here. I mass added all echos from a fido hub and it gated fsx areas to me. It did the same on agoranet. SO...I've probably spammed everyone.

If it's any consolation, I disabled the duplicate feeds but I fear some
damage is already done. Terribly sorry for the frustration here.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
* Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)

Hello Avon,

Not sure why but it looks like a system (Fido?) connected to Monterey
BBS has tossed a bunch of dated packets back through this fsxNet node
and onto NET 1 and beyond. More detective works follows...

I am not sure of the cause of this but it looks like a synchronet BBS with multiple networks has "allow nodes to add areas from areafile" set to yes.

That's a good default if you just have one network, but if you have more than one network and someone does %+ALL and/or rescans they get connected to all areas and may get a rescan of all areas also.

This can lead to nodes getting "surprises"?

It's possible with Synchronet to use a list of areas that nodes have access to so that doesn't happen but requires a few steps to get setup and working.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 03 Mar 2020 at 01:31a, ryan pondered and said...

Yeah, my fault, really sorry here. I mass added all echos from a fido
hub and it gated fsx areas to me. It did the same on agoranet. SO...I've probably spammed everyone.

If it's any consolation, I disabled the duplicate feeds but I fear some damage is already done. Terribly sorry for the frustration here.

It's totally fine, we all make mistakes at times and this network is all
about being experimental.. so let's call it that :)

You're all good Ryan, don't stress about it :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/02/29 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

It's totally fine, we all make mistakes at times and this network is all about being experimental.. so let's call it that :)

I think we should flog him or send him to the salt mines ;)

|15frank |08// |15netsurge
|07disksh0p|08!|07bbs |08% |07bbs.diskshop.ca |08% |07mystic goodness |11SciNet |03ftn hq |08% |07https://scinet-ftn.org

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
* Origin: % disksh0p!bbs % bbs.diskshop.ca % SciNet ftn hq % (21:4/154)

I think we should flog him or send him to the salt mines ;)

Sounds delicious!

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
* Origin: monterey bbs (21:1/168)

about being experimental.. so let's call it that :)

I think we should flog him or send him to the salt mines ;)

Hey no half measures! Flog him AND send him to the salt mines. :P

Spec


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--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

On 03-04-20 15:43, Spectre wrote to Netsurge <=-

Hey no half measures! Flog him AND send him to the salt mines. :P

Haha that'll work. ;)


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Avon wrote to All <=-

Hi troops.

Not sure why but it looks like a system (Fido?) connected to Monterey
BBS has tossed a bunch of dated packets back through this fsxNet node
and onto NET 1 and beyond. More detective works follows...

MIS and MUTIL logging shows

Hi, that was me. Sorry about that. Monterey just joined Fido, Ryan did a
+ALL request, and Synchronet didn't follow the "required key" setting and limit access to just the Fido backbone.


... Where is the center of the maze?
--- MultiMail/XT v0.52
* Origin: http://realitycheckbbs.org (21:4/122)

On 05 Mar 2020 at 05:24a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

Hi, that was me. Sorry about that. Monterey just joined Fido, Ryan did a +ALL request, and Synchronet didn't follow the "required key" setting
and limit access to just the Fido backbone.

No probs, stuff happens from time to time :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/04 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Hi, that was me. Sorry about that. Monterey just joined Fido, Ryan did a +ALL request, and Synchronet didn't follow the "required key" setting
and limit access to just the Fido backbone.

Sorry for getting upset about this last night.. Things happen. I *really* shouldn't be checking BBS messages after a long frustrating work day.
-Eggy

Thanks,
matt // eggy
Eggy BBS | telnet://bbs.eggy.cc:2300 | ssh://bbs.eggy.cc:2222
fsxNet (21:4/143) | SciNet (77:1/136) | FidoNet (1:220/50)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Eggy BBS (21:4/143)

Sorry for getting upset about this last night.. Things happen. I *really* shouldn't be checking BBS messages after a long frustrating work day. -Eggy

Good to let something out somewhere... sometimes better here than somewhere else. ALso you're unlucky to get a double dose within a week. Sit back relax and all will be well...QED

Spec


*** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: Scrawled in haste at The Lower Planes (21:3/101)

On 15 Mar 2020 at 11:55p, fsxNet HUB pondered and said...

@PATH: 936/1 1/129 100

=================================================
fsxNet - Weekly Message Statistics (FSX_GEN)
=================================================

Looks like a dupe burst coming in via 1/129

Luc - can you have a look at your settings and let me know what's up?

Best, Paul

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/03/18 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

Apologies for the dupes some of you will have got via 1/100
I ran a command today that I now know not too :)
I'd better have a lie down now. Heh.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

BY: Avon(21:1/101)


|11A|09> |10I ran a command today that I now know not too :)|07

They say experience is the best teacher, and I can believe it!

I know the feeling. I messed up on a rescan request to my fidonet hub, and instead of only rescanning a couple of echos, I got rescans of ALL of them that I subscribe to.

Took forever to process them....

Morgul

--- WWIV 5.7.0.development
* Origin: ** The Trading Post [SOUTH] BBS. Columbia, SC ** (21:1/207)

On 04 Mar 2021 at 07:17p, Morgul pondered and said...

They say experience is the best teacher, and I can believe it!

Heh, yeah, it's the way it seems to be eh? :)

I know the feeling. I messed up on a rescan request to my fidonet hub, and instead of only rescanning a couple of echos, I got rescans of ALL
of them that I subscribe to.

Took forever to process them....

I've seen similar rescans at the HUBs I run. I often wonder if nodes know
what they are letting themselves in for when the reply comes in :)

It's all good... gotta keep leaning by doing I think :)

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

On 03-05-21 12:42, Avon wrote to All <=-

Apologies for the dupes some of you will have got via 1/100
I ran a command today that I now know not too :)
I'd better have a lie down now. Heh.

Whoops! :D


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