• For Honour & MagiDoor

    From apam@21:1/126 to All on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 12:36:28
    Hi

    Today I have ported For Honour over to MagiDoor.

    I've tested it with Mystic on Windows. Linux also seems to work but I've
    not added it to my BBS yet.

    If anyone is on windows and would like to test it, please let me know
    where I can send the zip file. If you're on Linux and want to test,
    please checkout from my git repo

    https://gitlab.com/apamment/forhonour-c.git

    You will need cmake to compile MagiDoor. You will need to edit your
    startup script / batch file, as MagiDoor takes the first argument as the
    path and filename of the dropfile (which should be door32.sys on windows
    and door.sys on linux).

    It should work with the /full switch after it, and maintenance should
    also work if it's the only argument.

    It should in theory work with interbbs stuff too, but lets test that
    later. I just want to make sure there are no hiccups with the game
    first.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/126 to All on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 12:48:02
    I've tested it with Mystic on Windows. Linux also seems to work but
    I've not added it to my BBS yet.

    I've now added it to HappyLand... seems to work ok.

    Andrew

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  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to apam on Monday, December 02, 2019 23:17:15
    Andrew;

    You can shoot it over to Another F-ing BBS (Windows Version)... will be happy to test it for you...

    Gary

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to garycrunk on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 20:28:17
    On 02 Dec 2019 at 11:17p, garycrunk pondered and said...
    You can shoot it over to Another F-ing BBS (Windows Version)...
    will be happy to test it for you...

    Hi Gary.

    How's the day/night going?

    Just finishing my Tuesday over here. It's been a long day.

    Best, Paul

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  • From apam@21:1/126 to garycrunk on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 17:52:56
    Andrew;

    You can shoot it over to Another F-ing BBS (Windows Version)...
    will be happy to test it for you...

    Hey, I uploaded it to your bbs.. thanks!

    Andrew

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  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to Avon on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:49:23
    How's the day/night going?
    Just finishing my Tuesday over here. It's been a long day.
    Best, Paul

    Paul;
    It's been going... I'm alive so I guess thats a plus...
    How are you doing?

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  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to apam on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:50:00
    Hey, I uploaded it to your bbs.. thanks!

    Anytime...
    I will take a look ...

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  • From garycrunk@21:4/126 to apam on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 12:13:56
    Andrew;

    Got it... I've added it to my Doors Menu (T) so you (and anyone else) can Test it. It seems to work just fine here...

    Screens look good, No --More-- 's...
    Looks Great!

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to apam on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 13:27:52
    Hello apam,

    https://gitlab.com/apamment/forhonour-c.git

    I have successfully built this. I haven't put it on the BBS for a trial but will do that shortly for a look.

    Looking at Gary's post it looks like there may be a few BBSs ignoring incoming game packets because the fights per day doesn't match. I wonder if there could be a setting in the FHR-IBBS.CFG that sets the max fights value for InterBBS games and takes precedence over the setting in fh.ini, just in case they differ?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Ratz@21:2/114 to apam on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 18:24:39
    I'm on windows 7, I'd be happy to install and test it for you. You can upload it here on freeside if you like.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to garycrunk on Wednesday, December 04, 2019 12:41:15
    On 03 Dec 2019 at 11:49a, garycrunk pondered and said...

    Paul;
    It's been going... I'm alive so I guess thats a plus...
    How are you doing?

    Yeah I find the act of breathing in and out a real bonus :)

    Doing OK, working days are going by quite quickly but folks I work with and
    to be honest myself included are all hanging out for the Christmas break.
    Over here it's our summer so schools have the best part of a couple of months off, families take holidays etc. So I guess like your June/July period?

    I'm taking three weeks off from 24 December so looking forward to the change
    of routine. Just hoping that the weather will be kind to us all. It can be quite changeable at this time of the year and it feels like summer has been pushed forwards a month or so. Often when we're all back at work the weather
    is better - argh!

    I'm enjoying BBSing and engaging with people on a whole host of stuff. I
    should be outside walking more and sit waaaayyy to much in front of a screen. :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to apam on Tuesday, December 03, 2019 18:31:08
    Today I have ported For Honour over to MagiDoor.

    I've tested it with Mystic on Windows. Linux also seems to work but
    I've not added it to my BBS yet.

    Well it is not working so well on my pi. No error messages and no
    log activity. Looks like the script starts as I see some stuff flask
    flash by but then it goes right back to the BBS.

    Oddly, the copy I compiled on 11/30 from git is displaying the same
    behavior. I had not tried it since then so I was not aware that it
    was dead.

    Odder still, the code I also pulled and compiled on 11/30 on my
    synchrnet bbs (64-bit linux not on a pi) *is* working.

    Maybe the pi is missing something but I am not sure what as there
    were no compile errors, either.
    /s

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 18:50:13
    It's slowly getting worse here with Covid-19 stuff.

    In my city a couple of people have tested positive and one is a school child. That sent the school to close and 150 close contacts tested today with
    results due back in a day or so and all of those people and their families in self isolation for 14 days.

    Total cases here in New Zealand jumped from 8 to 20 today. The nightly news
    was full of Covid-19 local and overseas news and essentially nothing else.

    My work is talking about getting us working from home soon but as yet have
    not enacted that.

    Our government is saying to New Zealanders living overseas to return home now or risk not being able to as flights dry up and borders close.

    Anyone coming in to the country must now self isolate for 14 days. People are bing spot checked by the police and those who do not comply (visitors to NZ) are being deported.

    The government announced a 12 billion dollar package to support business and workers who are loosing their jobs. Tourism is essentially gone now for who knows how long for that sector is pretty stuffed.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 23:29:14
    It's slowly getting worse here with Covid-19 stuff.

    I don't think it's getting worse here or there.

    In my city a couple of people have tested positive and one is a school child. That sent the school to close and 150 close contacts tested today with results due back in a day or so and all of those people and their families in self isolation for 14 days.

    We have had 4 deaths here in BC and we now have more than 100 cases. That was not unexpected but perhaps surprising to some. We knew at the outset that we were going to get these or similar numbers.

    Total cases here in New Zealand jumped from 8 to 20 today. The nightly news was full of Covid-19 local and overseas news and essentially nothing else.
    My work is talking about getting us working from home soon but as yet have not enacted that.

    It's the same here. I have to admit it's all a little more than I'd like. Hospitals are not doing elective surgeries anymore. I am still waiting for surgery for a hernia. I'm happy to wait for this corona visus to settle down into something we can more easily manage.

    Our government is saying to New Zealanders living overseas to return home now or risk not being able to as flights dry up and borders close.

    Canada is also closing the borders now. Not to keep people out but to keep people safe, all peoples.

    Anyone coming in to the country must now self isolate for 14 days. People are bing spot checked by the police and those who do not comply (visitors to NZ) are being deported.

    That self isolating is an important part of all this. Without that we are missing an important step.

    The government announced a 12 billion dollar package to support business and workers who are loosing their jobs. Tourism is essentially gone now for who knows how long for that sector is pretty stuffed.

    The Canadian Gov't is doing something similar also. Penticton is a tourist town
    and tourism is an important part of the BC economy. Tourism is down here the last few years from all the fires burning in the summer time lately. This corona virus is going to have a major impact here this summer and I'd imagine just about everywhere.

    It's a game changer.

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  • From xqtr@21:1/111 to Avon on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 06:44:50
    In my city a couple of people have tested positive and one is a school chi That sent the school to close and 150 close contacts tested today with
    ...

    It's the same story everywhere. Look what happened to Europe and the US and it will happen exactly like that also in NZ.

    Right now some countries like Spain & Serbia are prohibiting to walk or do stuff in the public. One woman in Spain arrested for sub bathing.

    So prepare, as the toilet paper is going to extinct also in your area :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Al on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 20:08:26
    On 17 Mar 2020 at 11:29p, Al pondered and said...

    It's a game changer.

    Yep. I think the sooner I can just work from home the better.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to xqtr on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 20:10:40
    On 18 Mar 2020 at 06:44a, xqtr pondered and said...

    It's the same story everywhere. Look what happened to Europe and the US and it will happen exactly like that also in NZ.

    I think (I hope) not. Our government made some good calls early regarding our border controls and our country was lucky in that we seemed to get cases much later than others. I'm of two minds about schools being closed now (they are not widely so as yet) the government thinks they are still OK to be open. But
    I do worry about that.

    So prepare, as the toilet paper is going to extinct also in your area :)

    Nope we have a factory in our city :) :)

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  • From apam@21:1/126 to Avon on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 20:34:10
    So prepare, as the toilet paper is going to extinct also in
    your area :)

    Nope we have a factory in our city :) :)

    I was talking to my Mum yesterday who lives in millicent (where I used
    to live) there's a toilet paper factory just out of town, but they ship
    it to adelaide first (5 hours away) then ship it back to put on the
    shelves. Seems crazy, but I do understand it.. I wonder if it's
    something like that in dunedin

    Andrew

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Avon on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 07:32:00
    Avon wrote to xqtr <=-

    So prepare, as the toilet paper is going to extinct also in your area :)

    Nope we have a factory in our city :) :)

    Yes, but..... does it have human employees...? ;)



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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to xqtr on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:10:23
    xqtr wrote to Avon <=-

    Right now some countries like Spain & Serbia are prohibiting to walk or
    do stuff in the public. One woman in Spain arrested for sub bathing.

    That one surprises me a little bit. They are still encouraging us to go outside here, just not to congregate in large groups while doing so. As the weather gets nicer, and people can go outside more, that might help slow
    the spread as it is easier to practice social distancing when you are not
    all crammed together indoors.

    Our governor has been closing a lot of places down. I am not sure that
    they have the authority to but, as most of those places are either licensed
    or subject to inspection by a board, I am guessing that the requests carry weight.

    I figured that NZ may have jumped on it soon enough, and with more vigor,
    than other countries so I am also surprised that they have experienced such
    a jump on cases.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:05:00
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    It's slowly getting worse here with Covid-19 stuff.

    In my city a couple of people have tested positive and one is a school child. That sent the school to close and 150 close contacts tested
    today with results due back in a day or so and all of those people and their families in self isolation for 14 days.

    The official word here is that public schools are closed until April 10th, after the spring break. We're being warned that school is probably done for the year.

    Colleges are advising students to leave campus and pack up their rooms. I've got friends with kids in college in Seattle and Los Angeles, and they've
    been given a week to clear out.

    Total cases here in New Zealand jumped from 8 to 20 today. The nightly news was full of Covid-19 local and overseas news and essentially
    nothing else.

    It's pretty apparent that the USA strategy was "You can't count what you
    don't test", so as we see more testing available I'm sure the count will increase significantly here.

    My work is talking about getting us working from home soon but as yet
    have not enacted that.

    The San Francisco bay area enacted a "Shelter-In-Place" declaration since
    late last week. Anyone who can work from home is working from home. I'm expecting to be working from home until at least April 10th.

    It'll be interesting to see how many people will continue to work from home once the dust settles.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Blue White on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 12:08:00
    Blue White wrote to xqtr <=-


    That one surprises me a little bit. They are still encouraging us to
    go outside here, just not to congregate in large groups while doing so.
    As the weather gets nicer, and people can go outside more, that might
    help slow the spread as it is easier to practice social distancing when you are not all crammed together indoors.

    Our guidelines are no groups more than 10, and keep 6 feet between people
    when possible. Outdoors activities are OK as long as you keep the 2 above rules in mind.

    Walking pets is an exemption, so my dog is getting quite a workout.


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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 13:42:49
    Walking pets is an exemption, so my dog is getting quite a workout.

    Naturally as we are trying to ration things like paper towels and lysol
    wipes, my dog got violently ill last night and threw up everywhere.

    Fast forward to this morning and she refuses to go for a walk, hasn't been
    out to pee, and won't get out of bed. I called the emergency vet. He's not
    able to come in the house due to coronavirus (which my gf carries) so he left injections and some IV kits in a box outside. I had to give this treatment to my dog today. Pretty bizarre circumstances.

    And she still hasn't gotten up to go pee :( She's old and I'm worried about her.

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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to apam on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 20:05:00
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: apam to Avon on Wed Mar 18 2020 08:34 pm


    I was talking to my Mum yesterday who lives in millicent (where I used
    to live) there's a toilet paper factory just out of town, but they ship
    it to adelaide first (5 hours away) then ship it back to put on the shelves. Seems crazy, but I do understand it.. I wonder if it's
    something like that in dunedin

    I heard from a caller that was on Infowars and he works for a major food chain
    in the States that was told not to come in to work till he was needed to drive
    a truck and deliver supplies to the chain stores.

    Now today I went to a food store called Publix one of the big guys and the shelf's were all empty, paper, meat, canned goods you name it.

    Makes me feel a lot of this is being manufactured shortages.



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  • From Al@21:4/106 to -= Havok =- on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 17:36:38
    Makes me feel a lot of this is being manufactured shortages.

    I hear on the news that stores in this area can get restocked.. it's just keeping the shelves stocked.

    I did a quick trip to the wholesale club today and the shelves looked pretty good. It was early in the morning and the store was busy already.

    No canned soup or stew but I have enough of that for another week ot two anyway.. ;)

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 20:37:50
    Fast forward to this morning and she refuses to go for a walk, hasn't
    been out to pee, and won't get out of bed. I called the emergency vet. He's not able to come in the house due to coronavirus (which my gf carries) so he left injections and some IV kits in a box outside. I had
    to give this treatment to my dog today. Pretty bizarre circumstances.

    How is she doing (by she, your GF and dog).

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Netsurge on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 18:26:37
    How is she doing (by she, your GF and dog).

    GF is on the mend. No fever, she's back at work (from home), and she hates
    her job. So she's unhappy. Such is life.

    My dog isn't doing well. I gave her an IV and a couple shots today and she's very lethargic. She hasn't gotten out of bed all day, not even to go to the bathroom. I'm worried about her. :(

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Avon on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:09:41
    Our government is saying to New Zealanders living overseas to return
    home now or risk not being able to as flights dry up and borders close.

    Heard this morning on the CBC that they are telling Canadians to get home.
    For some elderly in the US...their insurance company are telling them you
    have 10 days to get home or their policies are cancelled. Some of these folks are saying they are scared they will close the border & won't be allowed into the country...but according to a spokesman...it's a right to be allowed back into the country...so they will be able to enter. Don't know what the reality is going to be.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:13:39
    Our government is saying to New Zealanders living overseas to return hom or risk not being able to as flights dry up and borders close.
    Canada is also closing the borders now. Not to keep people out but to
    keep people safe, all peoples.

    Was listening to the 3 AM broadcast while getting ready to be at work at 6
    AM. They were saying the borders are closing to keep Americans out to keep things from getting worse. They said tourists & such would be turned
    back...but goods were going to be let in. Whether or not this is true...had
    to laugh about it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:24:12
    The official word here is that public schools are closed until April
    10th, after the spring break. We're being warned that school is probably done for the year.

    They closed all schools in Oregon yesterday until April 28th. In terms of
    what next...no one has said...but expect them do either make up the time this summer or throw in the hat & cancel the rest of the year.

    Been at work (retail) the past couple of days & people are not self-issolating...but bring their screaming kids in. Means my work as a
    stocker has doubled to try to keep things on the shelf...rather than on the floor in a pile or having to deal with arguments between kids/parents.

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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Al on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 21:46:00
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Al to -= Havok =- on Wed Mar 18 2020 05:36 pm



    I did a quick trip to the wholesale club today and the shelves looked pretty good. It was early in the morning and the store was busy already.

    Hello Al

    The way I read it, is it's not going to get better, for small business for sure.

    I was shocked on how Publix was empty today!

    Not to say anything on how small business is being left out but the big guys
    get all the breaks.

    Another reason while I hope to still buy 80 acres up north and hunt my own
    meat and grow my own food.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to ryan on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:29:55
    And she still hasn't gotten up to go pee :( She's old and I'm worried about her.

    Hope she gets okay. Sounds like the same situation when my 18 year old cat passed 4 years ago. I pray she's does get up to pee & soon. Ended up the last
    2 weeks feeding her by hand & trying to get her to use the litter box.

    Good luck on the injections.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:36:22
    Heard this morning on the CBC that they are telling Canadians to get home. For some elderly in the US...their insurance company are telling them you have 10 days to get home or their policies are cancelled. Some of these folks are saying they are scared they will close the border & won't be allowed into the country...but according to a spokesman...it's a right to be allowed back into the country...so they will be able to enter. Don't know what the reality is going to be.

    Canadians can always re enter the country. Getting a flight or some kind of transportation may not be so easy.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:39:04
    Was listening to the 3 AM broadcast while getting ready to be at work at 6 AM. They were saying the borders are closing to keep Americans out to keep things from getting worse. They said tourists & such would be turned back...but goods were going to be let in. Whether or not this is true...had to laugh about it.

    They were kind of iffy as far as Americans go. I think Americans can still travel freely in Canada but are being cautioned.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to -= Havok =- on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:44:16
    The way I read it, is it's not going to get better, for small business for sure.

    No, small businesses are getting a hard hit. Some will not survive even though they would have otherwise.

    I was shocked on how Publix was empty today!

    Not to say anything on how small business is being left out but the big guys get all the breaks.

    Some things never change..

    Another reason while I hope to still buy 80 acres up north and hunt my own meat and grow my own food.

    I don't own any land but there is enough here you don't need to unless you want
    to settle somewhere.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:53:27
    into the country...so they will be able to enter. Don't know what the re is going to be.
    Canadians can always re enter the country. Getting a flight or some kind of transportation may not be so easy.

    Knew that about transportation...but am glad to hear they will be able to get home if need be. Thank you for allowing me to know what I hear on the news is correct.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 19:55:21
    back...but goods were going to be let in. Whether or not this is true... to laugh about it.
    They were kind of iffy as far as Americans go. I think Americans can
    still travel freely in Canada but are being cautioned.

    With much of that border open land...didn't understand how they are going to keep anyone from just doing a walkabout for either side.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Phoobar on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 20:03:08
    With much of that border open land...didn't understand how they are going to keep anyone from just doing a walkabout for either side.

    Yep.. Umm.. you don't think we're going to need a wall.. do you? ;)

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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 19, 2020 00:23:34
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Phoobar to Avon on Wed Mar 18 2020 19:09:41

    Heard this morning on the CBC that they are telling Canadians to get home. For some elderly in the US...their insurance company are telling them you have 10 days to get home or their policies are cancelled. Some of these
    folks
    are saying they are scared they will close the border & won't be allowed
    into
    the country...but according to a spokesman...it's a right to be allowed
    back
    into the country...so they will be able to enter. Don't know what the
    reality
    is going to be.

    If they show up at a land border, I'm sure *something* will be arranged. It's going to be harder for people who need to fly home. I dunno, maybe they need to
    hit the high seas. I hear there are cruise ships going spare.

    As of today only four international airports are operating across Canada. I suspect flights are going to
    be few and far between, even stopping entirely at some point. The government is
    willing to *loan* people up to $5K to help them get home or cover their needs while they're trapped abroad.

    Air passengers bound for Canada are to be screened and denied boarding if they exhibit symptoms. If you're sick, you can't fly home. For some, that means they're barred from re-entering their own country. This is constitutionally problematic causing some debate. These folks will need to wait two weeks (from when they were denied boarding) and then try again, or come back with a certificate saying they're COVID-free. I guess ideally the government would find some way to get them home without risking the health of other passengers, or provide them with care and shelter wherever they are.

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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 19, 2020 00:28:29
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Phoobar to Al on Wed Mar 18 2020 19:13:39

    things from getting worse. They said tourists & such would be turned back...but goods were going to be let in. Whether or not this is
    true...had
    to laugh about it.

    It is darkly amusing, but I think it's for our mutual benefit on both counts. It's entirely possible that some jurisdiction in the US could get things under control, and then some lousy Canadian tourist shows up and coughs all over the buffet. Or vice versa. Meanwhile neither country should want the supply chain interfered with unless it's absolutely necessary.

    Of course Canada is in greater need of some goods flowing in our direction, but
    we only need to look as far back as the recent trade disputes to see that there can be problems all around.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Thursday, March 19, 2020 00:55:06
    GF is on the mend. No fever, she's back at work (from home), and she
    hates her job. So she's unhappy. Such is life.

    That is great news, not the hating the job part or course.

    My dog isn't doing well. I gave her an IV and a couple shots today and she's very lethargic. She hasn't gotten out of bed all day, not even to
    go to the bathroom. I'm worried about her. :(

    That sucks. We have a dog and a cat. They are both number 2s as we have lost one of each in the past. It is painful loosing your best friend.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to echicken on Thursday, March 19, 2020 01:23:56
    Of course Canada is in greater need of some goods flowing in our direction, but we only need to look as far back as the recent trade disputes to see that there can be problems all around.

    Except for beer, our beer is better ;)

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to ryan on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 23:11:22
    He's not able to come in the house due to coronavirus (which my gf carries) so he left injections and some IV kits in a box outside. I had
    to give this treatment to my dog today. Pretty bizarre circumstances.

    And she still hasn't gotten up to go pee :( She's old and I'm worried about her.
    I feel for you man. We just got back from a cruise and we are hearing maybe some people on boat had coronavirus. No confirmed cases yet, but a lot of people are experiencing mild symptoms so maybe it's just cruise crud non
    corona related. My dog puked twice today, but he has been wanting to play
    and go outside. I did a little research and there was a dog in Hong Kong
    that was 17 years old tested positive for corona, was released and died two days later. :(

    Hope you and your dogs are ok. I am worried too.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to ryan on Thursday, March 19, 2020 17:06:00
    My dog isn't doing well. I gave her an IV and a couple shots today and

    I have to ask, how do you get an IV into a dog? We've got largish meaty arms butold yella hasn't got anything like that.

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Poindexter Fortran on Thursday, March 19, 2020 00:22:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Avon <=-

    It'll be interesting to see how many people will continue to work from home once the dust settles.

    I was talking to my son earlier about this... I said, "remember how 9/11 changed air travel forever? I think this will change a lot of things too."

    He disagreed and said it will blow over. We'll see. :-)




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to -= Havok =- on Thursday, March 19, 2020 00:50:00
    -= Havok =- wrote to apam <=-


    Makes me feel a lot of this is being manufactured shortages.

    They can sell EVERYTHING if there's not much... If there's TOO
    much then they won't sell much...



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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Jimmy Anderson on Thursday, March 19, 2020 06:51:00
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Jimmy Anderson to -= Havok =- on Thu Mar 19 2020 12:50 am


    They can sell EVERYTHING if there's not much... If there's TOO
    much then they won't sell much...

    So true, so true!

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Al on Wednesday, March 18, 2020 21:22:56
    With much of that border open land...didn't understand how they are goin keep anyone from just doing a walkabout for either side.
    Yep.. Umm.. you don't think we're going to need a wall.. do you? ;)

    Instant way to keep Americans out...paint the American side the colors of the Canadian flag & write on it...Making Canada Great Again. ;)

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, March 19, 2020 06:25:02
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Avon <=-

    It'll be interesting to see how many people will continue to work from home once the dust settles.

    I wish they would let us do so. I prefer it. Many of my co-workers miss
    the social aspect, while I prefer fewer interruptions. :) Our employer
    does not usually allow it, supposedly due to past abuse of it. They have actually gotten better in recent years of cramming more of us together in closer-quarters, which is not helping now with a social distancing mandate being in place.

    Many of our employess have public facing, or other, jobs which cannot
    really be done from home, either. :(

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 19, 2020 06:30:50
    Phoobar wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Been at work (retail) the past couple of days & people are not self-issolating...but bring their screaming kids in. Means my work as a stocker has doubled to try to keep things on the shelf...rather than on the floor in a pile or having to deal with arguments between
    kids/parents.

    People here don't like to self-isolate, and never like leaving the kids at home. I understand it is difficult for single parents to do, but it is
    pretty normal to see whole families out. I am guessing one does not like
    being left at home with kids so they all go, or the ones that prefers doing
    the shopping is also the only one that can be trusted alone with the kids.

    It is annoying enough during flu season when the kids are obviously not
    well.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to -= Havok =- on Thursday, March 19, 2020 08:17:51
    -= Havok =- wrote to apam <=-

    Makes me feel a lot of this is being manufactured shortages.

    It is being manufactured by your crazy neighbors. We were not out of paper products here until people started posting on facebook about it. We had
    plenty of bottled water here until people started posting on facebook about
    it. I don't think the companies are manufacturing it, but do agree it is artificial.

    Now that our governor has announced that our county has a case, people are hoarding perishables. Good luck with that. If they bought milk from
    walmart I hoped they remembered to subtract 2 weeks from the use by date.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Spectre on Thursday, March 19, 2020 08:43:00
    I have to ask, how do you get an IV into a dog? We've got largish meaty arms butold yella hasn't got anything like that.

    For dogs it's just a subcutaneous injection. You pinch up the skin around the shoulder blades and create a little tent, and go in at a 45 degree angle. You don't need to hit a vein, like with humans. So it's actually a lot easier
    than giving an IV to a human, which I have tons of practice with, so this was no big deal.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Thursday, March 19, 2020 13:56:10
    For dogs it's just a subcutaneous injection. You pinch up the skin
    around the shoulder blades and create a little tent, and go in at a 45 degree angle. You don't need to hit a vein, like with humans. So it's actually a lot easier than giving an IV to a human, which I have tons of practice with, so this was no big deal.

    Part of the whole "Military Training" thing I take it.

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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Blue White on Thursday, March 19, 2020 13:54:00
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Blue White to -= Havok =- on Thu Mar 19 2020 08:17 am


    Now that our governor has announced that our county has a case, people are hoarding perishables. Good luck with that. If they bought milk from walmart I hoped they remembered to subtract 2 weeks from the use by date.

    All I got to say is this is a crazy world!

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to -= Havok =- on Friday, March 20, 2020 04:38:00
    They can sell EVERYTHING if there's not much... If there's TOO much then they won't sell much...

    Thats exactly how world oil prices, and diamond prices work... essentially by cartel limiting supply.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Blue White on Friday, March 20, 2020 04:44:00
    Now that our governor has announced that our county has a case, people are hoarding perishables. Good luck with that. If they bought milk from walmart I hoped they remembered to subtract 2 weeks from the use by date.

    Walmart does food? Well you learn something every other day... One of things I'm hearing here, is that some of the US states are taking matters into their own hands about how much what is locked down, and other measures due to a lack of leadership coming out of the whitehouse...They're not liking where it looks like its going and trying to make their own improvements.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Spectre on Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:25:38
    Walmart does food? Well you learn something every other day... One of things I'm hearing here, is that some of the US states are taking
    matters into their own hands about how much what is locked down, and
    other measures due to a lack of leadership coming out of the whitehouse...They're not liking where it looks like its going and trying to make their own improvements.

    Yeah they pretty much have to. Jay Inslee (washington state) has put in a bunch of measures and they have cancelled any events with 200+ people and recommended everyone work from home and practice social distancing.

    My buddy told me Italy is now fining people 100-5000 euros for leaving their houses. A friend of his got fined 1000 euros for going on a bike ride. And since Italy now has the most deaths, it seems like they are at least taking
    it seriously.

    I expect to see more restrictions in the US, probably mostly
    at state levels because the whitehouse can't even be consistent in it's messaging.

    The ones that do nothing will get hit the worst, it's just going to continue
    to spread. That 5-14 days of being contagious and showing no symptoms makes
    it *extremely* hard to stop without just keeping yourself contained period.

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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Spectre on Thursday, March 19, 2020 16:58:00
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Spectre to -= Havok =- on Fri Mar 20 2020 04:38 am


    Thats exactly how world oil prices, and diamond prices work... essentially by cartel limiting supply.

    Oh kind of like Big Bank and corporate America!

    Darn forgot Big Pharma, lets not forget them....



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to echicken on Thursday, March 19, 2020 15:21:56
    If they show up at a land border, I'm sure *something* will be arranged. It's going to be harder for people who need to fly home. I dunno, maybe they need to hit the high seas. I hear there are cruise ships going
    spare.

    Very true.

    be few and far between, even stopping entirely at some point. The government is willing to *loan* people up to $5K to help them get home
    or cover their needs while they're trapped abroad.

    Don't remember the "loan" being covered in the newscasts. That's more than anything you would get from the US government...unless you're someone important/rich. For those like me...they would let me die.

    guess ideally the government would find some way to get them home
    without risking the health of other passengers, or provide them with
    care and shelter wherever they are.

    Like hearing items like this. Renews my faith that there are governments who
    do the decent thing...rather than stealing what little I have to give to some rich scumbag who doesn't need/deserve it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to echicken on Thursday, March 19, 2020 15:27:44
    It is darkly amusing, but I think it's for our mutual benefit on both counts. It's entirely possible that some jurisdiction in the US could
    get things under control, and then some lousy Canadian tourist shows up and coughs all over the buffet. Or vice versa. Meanwhile neither country should want the supply chain interfered with unless it's absolutely necessary.

    Totally agree! Does work both ways. On the other hand...can see ugly Americans demanding to be let in. They aren't...they throw even bigger fit. Just hope they do their time in an American prison...rather than a Canadian one. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Thursday, March 19, 2020 15:29:39
    That sucks. We have a dog and a cat. They are both number 2s as we have lost one of each in the past. It is painful loosing your best friend.

    Does it get easier & did the ones who you got afterwards help with the loss?

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Thursday, March 19, 2020 15:50:14
    Been at work (retail) the past couple of days & people are not self-issolating...but bring their screaming kids in. Means my work as
    It is annoying enough during flu season when the kids are obviously not well.

    Working in a business which caters to contractors/adults...rather than kids...makes it hard for their parents to keep them under control. Too bad places like Chuckie Cheese & such aren't open.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Jimmy Anderson on Thursday, March 19, 2020 15:44:01
    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Avon <=-

    I was talking to my son earlier about this... I said, "remember how
    9/11 changed air travel forever? I think this will change a lot of
    things too."

    I have been thinking along the lines of what changed, temporariliy, after
    9/11. I think we will definately see similar things happening. I am
    hopeful that some other things, like social distancing, won't just fall by
    the wayside. I don't mean the isolation, but people becoming more
    respectful of others, especially when they themselves don't feel well.

    I will be honest and say that so far I am not seeing that here. I think the folks that are distancing are the ones that would normally distance when
    they don't feel well, while the ones that are the spreaders will just keep
    on doing what they have always done.


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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 19, 2020 22:48:50
    Like hearing items like this. Renews my faith that there are governments who do the decent thing...rather than stealing what little I have to
    give to some rich scumbag who doesn't need/deserve it.

    Canadian charter company Sunwing is repatriating Canadians who are stranded
    in sun kissed getaways for free, even if they didn't take Sunwing down to
    their destination. Always great to see decency in this world.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 19, 2020 22:50:00
    Does it get easier & did the ones who you got afterwards help with the loss?

    Time heals all wounds. The new additions didn't help with the loss per say, they brought a whole new joy.

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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Phoobar on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:51:22
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Phoobar to echicken on Thu Mar 19 2020 15:21:56

    government is willing to *loan* people up to $5K to help them get home

    Don't remember the "loan" being covered in the newscasts. That's more than

    https://tinyurl.com/ud7l5lt
    https://tinyurl.com/rf96veo

    I just happened to see it mentioned in an article. I don't think it's figured heavily in any announcements. It's for people who truly cannot afford to get home with the cash or credit available to them.

    Like hearing items like this. Renews my faith that there are governments
    who
    do the decent thing...rather than stealing what little I have to give to
    some

    I'd be disappointed if they weren't doing at *least* this much.

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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Netsurge on Friday, March 20, 2020 00:05:56
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Netsurge to Phoobar on Thu Mar 19 2020 22:50:00

    Does it get easier & did the ones who you got afterwards help with the
    loss?

    Time heals all wounds. The new additions didn't help with the loss per
    say,
    they brought a whole new joy.

    ^ That is exactly how it works.

    Loss never goes away, but it loses its edge with time. After the absence is no longer a new thing, you're less focused on it. Less fixated on the sadness, more able to recall fond memories.

    You'll always be a bit sad, but there is no sense in living in grief forever. This should not be the net result of the life of someone you loved. You owe them better than that. Process your grief, never forget, but keep moving and fill your life with other happy things.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to echicken on Friday, March 20, 2020 00:24:52
    You'll always be a bit sad, but there is no sense in living in grief forever. This should not be the net result of the life of someone you loved. You owe them better than that. Process your grief, never forget, but keep moving and fill your life with other happy things.

    That was deep. I find alcohol also helps ;)

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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Netsurge on Friday, March 20, 2020 00:39:51
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Netsurge to echicken on Fri Mar 20 2020 00:24:52

    That was deep. I find alcohol also helps ;)

    Oh, sweet, sweet alcohol. Unfortunately I can't indulge as much as I'd like to at the moment, for safety reasons. I've got a chicken nugget to take care of and need to keep my wits and reflexes sharp-ish.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to echicken on Friday, March 20, 2020 00:47:24
    Oh, sweet, sweet alcohol. Unfortunately I can't indulge as much as I'd like to at the moment, for safety reasons. I've got a chicken nugget to take care of and need to keep my wits and reflexes sharp-ish.

    Congratulations my friend. It is the greatest thing that will every happen to you. As they get older it will also be the bane of your existence but you
    will love it never-the-less and then go back to drinking, lol.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Netsurge on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:16:53
    Part of the whole "Military Training" thing I take it.

    Yeah, that said, IVs and needles aren't all that scary once you've had a bit
    of exposure and practice.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Blue White on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:25:34
    I have been thinking along the lines of what changed, temporariliy, after 9/11. I think we will definately see similar things happening. I am hopeful that some other things, like social distancing, won't just fall
    by the wayside. I don't mean the isolation, but people becoming more respectful of others, especially when they themselves don't feel well.

    It'd be nice to have some legally mandated paid sick leave policy. Maybe some sort of substantive social safety net, and access to medical care.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Netsurge on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:28:36
    That was deep. I find alcohol also helps ;)

    OT, but due to my recent surgery and now COVID, I've been alcohol free well over a month. Honestly I don't miss it, and I'm sleeping much better and
    being more productive.

    That's a lie, I do miss it, it does look delicious, but I'm going to stay the course for a while and see if I decide to just abandon it altogether at some point.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 02:45:58
    Yeah, that said, IVs and needles aren't all that scary once you've had a bit of exposure and practice.

    Scared of getting them? Nope, I get poked and prodded all the time. Poking someone else? Not without some training, even then, I don't like causing
    people pain and discomfort.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 02:48:06
    It'd be nice to have some legally mandated paid sick leave policy. Maybe some sort of substantive social safety net, and access to medical care.

    Now you sound like a Canadian. 'Atta Boy' ;)

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 02:51:12
    OT, but due to my recent surgery and now COVID, I've been alcohol free well over a month. Honestly I don't miss it, and I'm sleeping much
    better and being more productive.

    That's a lie, I do miss it, it does look delicious, but I'm going to
    stay the course for a while and see if I decide to just abandon it altogether at some point.

    It has it's place. As you know, I've had health problems over the years that have forced me to go dry due to the medication I need to take. Going dry is
    no big deal for me and you are right, you sleep better and your critical thinking goes through the roof.

    On the flip side, a drink is great to settle a long day or as a break when
    you have been at something for too long.

    /me enjoys those times.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Netsurge on Thursday, March 19, 2020 23:59:22
    Scared of getting them? Nope, I get poked and prodded all the time.
    Poking someone else? Not without some training, even then, I don't like causing people pain and discomfort.

    The way you're taught to give IVs is with a partner who has never given one either. Someone comes over and tells you what to do and you both hurt each other and get through it. You'd be surprised how quickly you get over hurting someone when you know it could save their life, or cause a slight bit of immediate discomfort to prevent long-term discomfort.

    I did try to give an IV once in a field exercise with night vision goggles on and...that was tough. After failing and hurting the poor dude for a minute or so, who happened to be a medic lol, we turned on flashlights and risked
    getting in trouble because the dude was a legit heat casualty.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Netsurge on Friday, March 20, 2020 00:00:11
    Now you sound like a Canadian. 'Atta Boy' ;)

    Well, shit. I was playing NHL 94 for Sega earlier...

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 03:03:18
    I did try to give an IV once in a field exercise with night vision
    goggles on and...that was tough. After failing and hurting the poor dude for a minute or so, who happened to be a medic lol, we turned on flashlights and risked getting in trouble because the dude was a legit heat casualty.

    Just trying to visualize that has me in stitches. I can see you now with a massive set of night vision goggles trying to jab the fine point of a thin IV into someone's vain.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 03:04:04
    Well, shit. I was playing NHL 94 for Sega earlier...

    One timer from the top of the circle. Dirty dangles.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 18:11:00
    On 03-19-20 23:28, ryan wrote to Netsurge <=-

    That was deep. I find alcohol also helps ;)

    OT, but due to my recent surgery and now COVID, I've been alcohol free well over a month. Honestly I don't miss it, and I'm sleeping much
    better and being more productive.

    I hardly touch alcohol these days. A focus on sport and better sleep are all the motivation I need. I don't miss it in the slightest. I typically got for months at a time without alcohol.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Friday, March 20, 2020 01:48:15
    Like hearing items like this. Renews my faith that there are governme who do the decent thing...rather than stealing what little I have to give to some rich scumbag who doesn't need/deserve it.
    Canadian charter company Sunwing is repatriating Canadians who are stranded in sun kissed getaways for free, even if they didn't take
    Sunwing down to their destination. Always great to see decency in this world.

    More like surprising. Here in the US...many people don't know about ethics/morals...but how much can they screw the other person for. It's stuff like this which makes me want to keep listening to non-US news.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Netsurge on Friday, March 20, 2020 01:51:18
    Does it get easier & did the ones who you got afterwards help with th loss?
    Time heals all wounds. The new additions didn't help with the loss per say, they brought a whole new joy.

    Very nice! Have wanted to get another kitty...but with the BS the OPOS
    has done to screw this country & everything else it gets its hands on...can't afford to take the chance..in case I lose my job if they close down the
    store. Don't want to have a kitty & then become homeless through no fault of
    my own. I get a cat...this will be our home till either/both of us pass on.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to echicken on Friday, March 20, 2020 01:53:24
    I just happened to see it mentioned in an article. I don't think it's figured heavily in any announcements. It's for people who truly cannot afford to get home with the cash or credit available to them.

    This makes me happy to know at least with your citizens...the government is willing to do what needs to be done. Down here...only if you are important.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Spectre on Friday, March 20, 2020 11:08:59
    Spectre wrote to Blue White <=-

    Walmart does food? Well you learn something every other day... One of things I'm hearing here, is that some of the US states are taking
    matters into their own hands about how much what is locked down, and
    other measures due to a lack of leadership coming out of the whitehouse...They're not liking where it looks like its going and
    trying to make their own improvements.

    I don't exactly see it that way, although I am sure others do. Some of the more drastic measures would not apply to some parts of the country. Also,
    here in a state where the governor has taken some drastic measures (but not like California), it is leaving a lot of people questioning whether or not
    the government (state or federal) even has the authority to do some of the things they are doing.

    I, for one, can see their reasoning. However, I can be told, "we suggest
    that you..." in a situation like this and I won't likely do the undesired behavior. However, I know of many who won't until you tell them the
    behavior is not allowed.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 11:26:12
    ryan wrote to Blue White <=-

    I have been thinking along the lines of what changed, temporariliy, after 9/11. I think we will definately see similar things happening. I am hopeful that some other things, like social distancing, won't just fall
    by the wayside. I don't mean the isolation, but people becoming more respectful of others, especially when they themselves don't feel well.

    It'd be nice to have some legally mandated paid sick leave policy.
    Maybe some sort of substantive social safety net, and access to medical care.

    I work somewhere that gives sick leave. It does not really help because
    the same ones who don't respect others are also the ones who burn their
    leave days as soon as they get them. This one guy who used to work there
    was always off "sick" the first Monday of every month. That is no joke, he
    was never there that first Monday. When he was sick, he'd be in the office.
    He was the only one in my department, but he was not alone across the enterprise. Plenty of folks had that reputation, as well as the reputation
    of begging sick time from others when they really needed to be off.

    Others, meanwhile, come in sicker that dogs even though they have plenty of sick leave banked up.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Embalmed on Friday, March 20, 2020 10:31:00
    My buddy told me Italy is now fining people 100-5000 euros for leaving their houses. A friend of his got fined 1000 euros for going on a
    bike ride. And since Italy now has the most deaths, it seems like
    they are at least taking it seriously.

    Apparently they've already got ~45000 outstanding in fines <boggle> some 161 cases...

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to -= Havok =- on Friday, March 20, 2020 10:33:00
    Thats exactly how world oil prices, and diamond prices work...
    essentially by cartel limiting supply.

    Oh kind of like Big Bank and corporate America!
    Darn forgot Big Pharma, lets not forget them....

    I s'pose just about everything has its own cartel in some shape or form.. probably helps drive inflation as much as anything. While trying to scrape every last cent for whatever product it is they're hawking.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to ryan on Friday, March 20, 2020 20:30:00
    OT, but due to my recent surgery and now COVID, I've been alcohol free well over a month. Honestly I don't miss it, and I'm sleeping
    much better and being more productive.

    That's a lie, I do miss it, it does look delicious, but I'm going to stay the course for a while and see if I decide to just abandon it
    altogether at some point.

    Alcohol is good like that... got some big hooks to it. I gave away drinking hmm bit over 10 years ago I s'pose... I might still occasionally have a drink, but its the exception rather than the rule. Part of mine was that I was better
    with medication than I was with medication and alcohol. It'll be interesting if you keep off it for long enough, one day you'll think i feel like a drink, and when you do, you'll find "what was I thinking".. this isn't what I remember....

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Saturday, March 21, 2020 20:46:00
    On 03-20-20 20:30, Spectre wrote to ryan <=-

    Alcohol is good like that... got some big hooks to it. I gave away drinking hmm bit over 10 years ago I s'pose... I might still

    I've also hardly drank alcohol for the past few years. :)

    occasionally have a drink, but its the exception rather than the rule. Part of mine was that I was better
    with medication than I was with medication and alcohol. It'll be

    With me, better sport and better sleep were the main reasons. I certainly don't miss alcohol.

    interesting if you keep off it for long enough, one day you'll think i feel like a drink, and when you do, you'll find "what was I thinking".. this isn't what I remember....

    Yep. Not something I feel I need these days. :)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Blue White on Friday, March 20, 2020 07:53:00
    Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    It'll be interesting to see how many people will continue to work from home once the dust settles.

    I wish they would let us do so. I prefer it. Many of my co-workers
    miss the social aspect, while I prefer fewer interruptions. :)

    My office might as well have been remote workers; people would send me an IM from across the office. In that way, this isn't much of a transition.

    employer does not usually allow it, supposedly due to past abuse of it.

    It all comes back to management. You can't manage remooe staff the same way you manage a local team (Management by butts in seats by 9:00am)

    I've had bosses who would actively complain that he didn't think my people were working hard when the parking lot was empty at 5:00pm. He didn't make
    the connection that most of the people were hourly and management was going home, having dinner with their family and going back to work (or being on- call)

    They have actually gotten better in recent years of cramming more of
    us together in closer-quarters, which is not helping now with a social distancing mandate being in place.

    Maybe social distancing will kill the open office design?





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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Spectre on Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:16:00
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Spectre to -= Havok =- on Fri Mar 20 2020 10:33 am

    I s'pose just about everything has its own cartel in some shape or form.. probably helps drive inflation as much as anything. While trying to scrape every last cent for whatever product it is they're hawking.

    You know what they say, great minds think alike and you and I do think
    very much alike!



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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Phoobar on Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:50:31
    Phoobar wrote to echicken <=-

    This makes me happy to know at least with your citizens...the
    government is willing to do what needs to be done. Down here...only if
    you are important.

    The US government, as have others, are questioning how some of the rich and famous here (like it seems the whole NBA) are somehow getting tested for
    corona when overall there are not enough tests yet to test "everyone else."

    If it is not the government who is testing the important, you wonder who
    is?


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Spectre on Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:18:00
    Spectre wrote to Blue White <=-

    Now that our governor has announced that our county has a case, people are hoarding perishables. Good luck with that. If they bought milk from walmart I hoped they remembered to subtract 2 weeks from the use by date.

    Walmart does food? Well you learn something every other day... One of things I'm hearing here, is that some of the US states are taking
    matters into their own hands about how much what is locked down, and
    other measures due to a lack of leadership coming out of the whitehouse...They're not liking where it looks like its going and
    trying to make their own improvements.


    I'm all for states' rights - not a bad thing at all!




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Blue White on Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:23:00
    Blue White wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Avon <=-

    I was talking to my son earlier about this... I said, "remember how
    9/11 changed air travel forever? I think this will change a lot of
    things too."

    I have been thinking along the lines of what changed, temporariliy,
    after 9/11. I think we will definately see similar things happening.
    I am hopeful that some other things, like social distancing, won't just fall by the wayside. I don't mean the isolation, but people becoming
    more respectful of others, especially when they themselves don't feel well.

    I will be honest and say that so far I am not seeing that here. I
    think the folks that are distancing are the ones that would normally distance when they don't feel well, while the ones that are the
    spreaders will just keep on doing what they have always done.

    Well I guess I mean how TSA has enforced stricter rules and such -
    that's what I think will change. I think larger conventions and
    such may start to decline. But maybe not...




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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 22, 2020 09:20:10
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Blue White <=-

    I wish they would let us do so. I prefer it. Many of my co-workers
    miss the social aspect, while I prefer fewer interruptions. :)

    My office might as well have been remote workers; people would send me
    an IM from across the office. In that way, this isn't much of a transition.

    Usually in my office, if they are IMing, it is because it is something they don't want to say out loud (the gossips), or because they don't want a paper trail (management).

    employer does not usually allow it, supposedly due to past abuse of it.

    It all comes back to management. You can't manage remooe staff the same way you manage a local team (Management by butts in seats by 9:00am)

    I agree with this, but there were actual abuses. A couple figured out how
    to "trick" skype into reporting that they were always available, even while they were obviously not. Aside from having their WFH rights stripped,
    along with everyone elses, they were not punished for that, or for counting their off-presmises lunches (on days they were in the office) as time
    worked. The now ex-wife still works there.

    They have actually gotten better in recent years of cramming more of
    us together in closer-quarters, which is not helping now with a social distancing mandate being in place.

    Maybe social distancing will kill the open office design?

    I thought it was going by the wayside, yet we seem to be moving back
    towards it. I sure hope this finally does it in. I think it is ironic
    that, just a month or two before this started, they opened a new building
    with cube walls so low you are facing your neighbor even when you are
    seated (and less than 3 feet apart).

    Seeing as how the flu did nothing to discourage this, I doubt that COVID
    will, either.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Blue White on Sunday, March 22, 2020 10:29:00
    Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I thought it was going by the wayside, yet we seem to be moving back towards it. I sure hope this finally does it in. I think it is ironic that, just a month or two before this started, they opened a new
    building with cube walls so low you are facing your neighbor even when
    you are seated (and less than 3 feet apart).

    I've had those cubes before - all it does is keep your teammates papers and cables from overflowing into your space. You get the same noise level and
    lack of privacy.

    I hated that -- I have tinnitus, and at that company I had a boss who would come over and speak barely above a whisper instead of calling me into a
    room.

    My company's parent company is moving to hoteling - no dedicated seats at
    all. They're using wifi, Teams for voice and are all-laptop, so it might
    work. If we do that in a new office, I think it'll incent them to build smaller. Plan for 60% of your people in the office at any given time and you can save money with a smaller office while still maintaining headcount.


    Aside: Chiat-Day, the advertising firm tried a total hoteling environment
    with shared laptops in the '90s and it failed in amusing ways. Sending your admin assistant at 7:30am to get "your" laptop and camp in "your" space.



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Blue White on Monday, March 23, 2020 00:13:18
    The US government, as have others, are questioning how some of the rich and famous here (like it seems the whole NBA) are somehow getting tested for corona when overall there are not enough tests yet to test "everyone else."

    Sounds sick...but hope some of these end up with their eternal reward.

    If it is not the government who is testing the important, you wonder who is?

    My question is are they using those big/bad WHO tests the OPOS won't allow
    into the country because some white guy in America has to make the money off
    of it.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, March 23, 2020 00:40:37
    My company's parent company is moving to hoteling - no dedicated seats
    at all. They're using wifi, Teams for voice and are all-laptop, so it might work. If we do that in a new office, I think it'll incent them to build smaller. Plan for 60% of your people in the office at any given
    time and you can save money with a smaller office while still
    maintaining headcount.

    My company does this. I live in the heart of silicon valley, work in a tech firm that a lot of people would consider to be a mature/professional company, am 38 years old, and yet I have to find a desk randomly every time I come to work. I can't keep pictures of my family on my desk or my own preferred keyboard or anything. It feels like a goddamn dorm.

    Working from home these past few weeks is a godsend. I need to find a way to
    do this after all these horrible times come to an end and we start going back to normal. I don't want to work in an office any more.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to ryan on Monday, March 23, 2020 08:30:00
    ryan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    My company does this. I live in the heart of silicon valley, work in a tech firm that a lot of people would consider to be a
    mature/professional company, am 38 years old, and yet I have to find a desk randomly every time I come to work. I can't keep pictures of my family on my desk or my own preferred keyboard or anything. It feels
    like a goddamn dorm.

    I'm lucky - when I hoteled, I managed teams in several offices and didn't
    want to take up a dedicated desk in each office. I learned to travel light, and got a laptop with a keyboard and screen that I liked.

    My predecessor had set up hoteling stations with the crappiest 4:3 monitors, VGA cables, and grungy keyboards. I was able to get funding to get 2 widescreen monitors, new keyboards/mice and docks (we were mostly
    standardized on the same model laptop) and things got much nicer.


    Working from home these past few weeks is a godsend. I need to find a
    way to do this after all these horrible times come to an end and we
    start going back to normal. I don't want to work in an office any more.

    I think a lot of people are thinking the same thing. We all need to make our managers very comfortable with the results we're generating during this time to make that decision an easy one.





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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, March 23, 2020 15:51:18
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Blue White <=-

    Blue White wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Aside: Chiat-Day, the advertising firm tried a total hoteling
    environment with shared laptops in the '90s and it failed in amusing
    ways. Sending your admin assistant at 7:30am to get "your" laptop and
    camp in "your" space.

    OK I shall have to look that one up! :)



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  • From Gryphon@21:1/120 to -= Havok =- on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:28:53
    On 18 Mar 2020 &4, -= Havok =- said the following...

    Re: Re: The Day
    By: apam to Avon on Wed Mar 18 2020 08:34 pm


    I was talking to my Mum yesterday who lives in millicent (where I use to live) there's a toilet paper factory just out of town, but they sh it to adelaide first (5 hours away) then ship it back to put on the shelves. Seems crazy, but I do understand it.. I wonder if it's something like that in dunedin

    I heard from a caller that was on Infowars and he works for a major
    food chain in the States that was told not to come in to work till he
    was needed to drive a truck and deliver supplies to the chain stores.

    Now today I went to a food store called Publix one of the big guys and the shelf's were all empty, paper, meat, canned goods you name it.

    Makes me feel a lot of this is being manufactured shortages.

    Keep in mind that many of the items on our shelves comes from China.

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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Gryphon on Thursday, March 26, 2020 20:37:00
    Re: The Day
    By: Gryphon to -= Havok =- on Wed Mar 25 2020 11:28 am

    Keep in mind that many of the items on our shelves comes from China.

    Very true I didn't think if that, but I hope some if not all of it will
    change.

    -= Havok =-

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Monday, December 14, 2020 21:36:06
    Got up early today as I had to take my wife and daughter into Hospital for my daughters day surgery. You know how you have those nights where you know you need to be up early then sleep badly all night because you worry you will
    sleep in and miss when you need to be up? That was me today :)

    I ended up at work about an hour earlier than usual after the drop off and
    then ended up working until later than usual as I was looking after a meeting live stream on YouTube for my employer.

    Tonight I bashed away at my web form some more, eat way to much this close to Christmas and soon will get some zzz...

    The surgery went well for my daughter and she's staying with us for a few
    days now.

    It's one of those calm clear sky evenings, birds are chirping outside my
    window and I find myself wondering if the ISS will be on a visible pass overhead in the coming hours? I'd better check the app.

    It seems all rather quiet here (chat echo) at the moment but I guess people
    are busy with life elsewhere?

    I'd better push on and boil the jug for that cuppa now.

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  • From Charles Pierson@21:4/127 to Avon on Monday, December 14, 2020 12:34:13
    My days pretty much blur tigether. Restless nights, then puttering about the house cleaning, cooking, and caring for my wife and the dogs.

    Between times, job hunting, fooling with the BBS, Trying to figure out why my Retronet feed inbound works, but fails when I poll, giving up in JustaXNet, since Gert isn't responding to email or netmail, and exploring other nets to add.

    Plus working up the nerve to mess with the menus and consider figuring out
    ANSI graphics to make this thing pretty.

    Mainly though, worrying about my wife. They say the cancer is clear, but Ipve been through this before, and lost a wife to cancer, so that feeling of deja
    vu is always there.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Charles Pierson on Monday, December 14, 2020 05:21:20
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Charles Pierson to Avon on Mon Dec 14 2020 12:34 pm

    Trying to figure out why my Retronet feed inbound works, but fails when I poll,

    The fellow who runs retronet had to change his hostname recently because of an issue of some kind. I forget now just what it is but if you ask in one of the retronet areas someone will let you know what it was changed to.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Charles Pierson@21:4/127 to Al on Monday, December 14, 2020 13:36:54
    On 14 Dec 2020, Al said the following...
    Trying to figure out why my Retronet feed inbound works, but fails wh poll,

    The fellow who runs retronet had to change his hostname recently because of an issue of some kind. I forget now just what it is but if you ask in one of the retronet areas someone will let you know what it was changed to.

    I've got the correct hostname, I'm guessing I've got something wrong in my configuration. It's giving me Not Authorized. It's not a major deal, since mail IS flowing, just an aggravation.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Charles Pierson on Monday, December 14, 2020 05:57:39
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Charles Pierson to Al on Mon Dec 14 2020 01:36 pm

    I've got the correct hostname, I'm guessing I've got something wrong in my configuration. It's giving me Not Authorized. It's not a major deal, since mail IS flowing, just an aggravation.

    That sounds like a password issue. Session passwords are case sensitive, if your link has an upper case password, or lower case you have to do the same in your setup.

    Remember also if you make changes in your AKA's or linked nodes you have to shut down and restart mis to use those new settings.

    That's just a guess on my part.. ;)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Monday, December 14, 2020 15:55:40
    On 14 Dec 2020, 09:36p, Avon said the following...

    The surgery went well for my daughter and she's staying with us for a few days now.

    I'm sure everything will be fine. At least you have a few days to spend time with her. :)

    It seems all rather quiet here (chat echo) at the moment but I guess peopleare busy with life elsewhere?

    Too many projects going on at the same time... :) Making some updates on some programs, rewriting others, and adding features to others. Is it bad that I think I've been dreaming in code? :)


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Charles Pierson on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 21:42:46
    On 14 Dec 2020 at 12:34p, Charles Pierson pondered and said...

    My days pretty much blur tigether. Restless nights, then puttering about the house cleaning, cooking, and caring for my wife and the dogs.

    I know that feeling of rinse and repeat... it seems to bedevil us all at
    times eh? It's been such a weird year for so many of us. I'm hoping Christmas feels like a restful break from the routines. It's summer over here so we listen to White Christmas on the radio and then fire up the BBQ.

    Between times, job hunting, fooling with the BBS, Trying to figure out
    why my Retronet feed inbound works, but fails when I poll, giving up in JustaXNet, since Gert isn't responding to email or netmail, and
    exploring other nets to add.

    I'm bashing away at a web form. Learning Bootstrap as I go and also some JavaScript. It's slow but when I am in the mood to work on it, it is
    rewarding to see things slowly take shape.

    Doing stuff that interests you is a good way to enjoy the time and stay sane eh? Pity about Gert but I have heard that tale a few times now. I am not sure why systems / nets are promoted if no one is about to answer any queries? It seems a tad weird. Still I also know how life can get in the way of hobby
    times and can suck up time that would otherwise be for something like BBSing.

    Plus working up the nerve to mess with the menus and consider figuring
    out ANSI graphics to make this thing pretty.

    Take a backup and have a bash :) You can always restore to an older ANS file etc. That's how I did approach things :)

    Mainly though, worrying about my wife. They say the cancer is clear, but Ipve been through this before, and lost a wife to cancer, so that
    feeling of deja vu is always there.

    You can only deal with the here and now, don't loose to much energy worrying about what may never come to pass. Easy to say I know but trust me you can
    sink a lot of energy into a something that never eventuates....

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 21:46:32
    On 14 Dec 2020 at 03:55p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    I'm sure everything will be fine. At least you have a few days to spend time with her. :)

    Hey :)

    Thanks, yeah she's on the mend but I think it will more like a week that
    she's with us and it's a lot of muscular strength recovery stuff she needs after abdominal surgery. Tonight we watched Top Gun which was fun. I found a copy of it on DVD for sale for $9.95 at a second hand music/dvd shop in town.

    Too many projects going on at the same time... :) Making some updates on some programs, rewriting others, and adding features to others. Is it
    bad that I think I've been dreaming in code? :)

    Just so long as you can CTRL-Break out of any loops :) You'll be fine :)

    Best wishes for the projects you're working on.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Monday, December 14, 2020 06:19:00
    Avon wrote to All <=-


    I'd better push on and boil the jug for that cuppa now.

    Is that the Kiwi version of "Keep Calm and Carry On"?



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Charles Pierson on Monday, December 14, 2020 06:21:00
    Charles Pierson wrote to Avon <=-

    My days pretty much blur tigether. Restless nights, then puttering
    about the house cleaning, cooking, and caring for my wife and the dogs.

    How many months in March?

    Between times, job hunting, fooling with the BBS, Trying to figure out
    why my Retronet feed inbound works, but fails when I poll, giving up in JustaXNet, since Gert isn't responding to email or netmail, and
    exploring other nets to add.

    I didn't realize JustaXNet was still around... I was a member back in
    the late '90s.

    Mainly though, worrying about my wife. They say the cancer is clear,
    but Ipve been through this before, and lost a wife to cancer, so that feeling of deja vu is always there.

    That must be a horrible feeling, sorry to hear that.




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  • From Charles Pierson@21:4/127 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 17:11:21
    On 14 Dec 2020, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...
    My days pretty much blur tigether. Restless nights, then puttering about the house cleaning, cooking, and caring for my wife and the dog

    How many months in March?

    More like How many weeks was Monday?

    I didn't realize JustaXNet was still around... I was a member back in
    the late '90s.

    Theoretically it is.

    Mainly though, worrying about my wife. They say the cancer is clear, but Ipve been through this before, and lost a wife to cancer, so that feeling of deja vu is always there.

    That must be a horrible feeling, sorry to hear that.


    It is. I try to focus on the positive, but it still sucks.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, December 17, 2020 13:45:37
    On 14 Dec 2020 at 06:19a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    I'd better push on and boil the jug for that cuppa now.

    Is that the Kiwi version of "Keep Calm and Carry On"?


    It could well be I think :)

    For me it's become a routine as my wife loves cups of tea, I'm well trained
    now that we're 18+ years married.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 16:54:09
    Re: Re: The Day
    By: Avon to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Dec 17 2020 01:45 pm

    For me it's become a routine as my wife loves cups of tea, I'm well trained now that we're 18+ years married.

    My wife is English, and I had to learn how to make a proper cuppa. Her best friend, who's Irish, is always pleasantly surprised when she comes over to a proper cup of builder's tea.

    I'm born and raised in California. My favorite tea is a pinwheel gunpowder green tea in an old japanese-inspired handle-less tea cup.

    My wife and I are still together somehow.
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, December 20, 2020 09:23:16
    On 16 Dec 2020 at 04:54p, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    My wife is English, and I had to learn how to make a proper cuppa. Her best friend, who's Irish, is always pleasantly surprised when she comes over to a proper cup of builder's tea.

    Nice job. How do you make yours?

    I'm born and raised in California. My favorite tea is a pinwheel
    gunpowder green tea in an old japanese-inspired handle-less tea cup.

    I like Earl Grey and my wife is an English Breakfast girl.

    My wife and I are still together somehow.

    Us too :)

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