T Bone Burnett - Palestine, Texas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UIlBpVLm54
Frank who was swank robbed a bank with a tank for a prank
Sam who was glam ran a scam from Siam to Viet Nam
Dean who was clean had a scene with the queen for a magazine
Joe wasn't slow but didn't know how to blow all the dough from the show
Palestine Texas
Palestine Texas
Peter in a two-seater for a heater had a thirty millimeter
Shecky worked blue for he knew it was true he would not get his due
Ann knew the plan as she ran from a fan with a man from the Klan
Phyllis would thrill us then grill us then kill us with bacillus
Palestine Texas
Palestine Texas
Presidents come and presidents go
They rise like smoke they fall like snow
Do you believe the things you say
Your lofty thoughts are filled with hay
What is this faith that you profess
That led to this colossal mess
When you awaken from this coma
You'll find you were in Oklahoma
When you come out of this self-delusion
You're going to need a soul transfusion
This version of the world will not be here long
It is already gone
It is already gone
This version of the world will not be here long
It is already gone
It is already gone
.
This version of the world will not be here long
It is already gone
It is already gone
This version of the world will not be here long
It is already gone
It is already gone
all ready dun see ya
T-Bone's geetar is pretty impressive. These guys are from down south
too and not a geetar amongst them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9FzVhw8_bY
Dead Love couldn't go no further
Proud of and disgusted by her
Push shove, a little bruised and battered
Oh Lord I ain't coming home with you
My life's a bit more colder
Dead wife is what I told her
Brass knife sinks into my shoulder
Oh babe don't know what I'm gonna do
I see my red head, messed bed, tear shed, queen bee
My squeeze
The stage it smells, tells, hell's bells, miss-spells
Knocks me on my knees
It didn't hurt, flirt, blood squirt, stuffed shirt
Hang me on a tree
After I count down, three rounds, in hell I'll be in good company
Dead Love couldn't go no further
Proud of and disgusted by her
Push shove, a little bruised and battered
Oh Lord I ain't coming home with you
My life's a bit more colder
Dead wife is what I told her
Brass knife sinks into my shoulder
Oh babe don't know what I'm gonna do
I see my red head, messed bed, tear shed, queen bee
My squeeze
The stage it smells, tells, hell's bells, misspells
Knocks me on my knees
It didn't hurt, flirt, blood squirt, stuffed shirt
Hang me on a tree
After I count down, three rounds, in hell I'll be in good company
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"Jesus is the laser beam and the pagans are the chickens (dinosaur souls)"
this is total bullshit.
won't go anywhere, they're
pulling their pud on this one.
Geez, so what happened with
the attorney-client priviledge?
out of the door this week?
no way jose, that shit won't fly.
So Chris, do you really think you know more about the law
than the district's US Attorney and the US Attorney General? :)
They're dealing with rats, and they KNOW IT.
So Chris, do you really think you know more about the law
than the district's US Attorney and the US Attorney General? :)
More? ha ha, how about less? whatever happened to less.
Or maybe less is more. Have a headache yet homes?
They're dealing with rats, and they KNOW IT.
ok ok, we will watch it play out.
It feels like we're living in an episode of
The Twilight Zone...
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied,
since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
Wanna see something bizarre? :)
Trevor Noah presents...
Trump calling in to Fox and Friends:
https://youtu.be/QtE0acRimSw
I am simply astounded by these people. It's beyond... beyond.
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied,
since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real to 'em!
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope?
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a time...
lost now of course...
(they don't know it's "evil" 'coz it's all they know/were ever shown to
know, so never had a hope, all involved/steeped in playing some crazy mad >game for keeps, all makes pure sense to 'em too, it all adds-up for 'em
see? and perforce they're all completely insane...)
quite a lot of wallyworld actually sucks that way? an amusement theme-park >out front; a slaughterhouse behind the scenes... not exactly what you'd
call the best possible of all worlds then huh...
and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks heh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rags6a4ayVk
(s'ok, s'just some mad-hippie cunt singing' his bleedin' heart out heh...)
:D
I am simply astounded by these people. It's beyond... beyond.
### - imho (and observation heh) they're to be pitied really...
i mean, just imagine having to live like THAT all the time??
what a boring fuckin' world they have to live in!?
(i wouldn't wish it on even my worst enemy hah!)
On Sun, 06 May 2018 01:39:10 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied,
since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from
reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
There is no hell, don't you know that Slider?
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real to
'em!
You really believe all that shit about hell, is that utterly real to
you?
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope?
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a
time...
How do you know they were perfect? Genetic predisposition to whatever
you're complaining about, perhaps? Isn't that an imperfection?
There is no such thing as perfection Slider, just learn a bit of
cosmology, if the biggest picture you can imagine was perfect, there
would be no left over asteroids, comets, detritus etc from planetary formation would there? Nothing is in balance, all is chaos, get used
to it.
lost now of course...
What morose bullshit you talk.
(they don't know it's "evil" 'coz it's all they know/were ever shown to
know, so never had a hope, all involved/steeped in playing some crazy
mad
game for keeps, all makes pure sense to 'em too, it all adds-up for 'em
see? and perforce they're all completely insane...)
Jeez...
quite a lot of wallyworld actually sucks that way? an amusement
theme-park
out front; a slaughterhouse behind the scenes... not exactly what you'd
call the best possible of all worlds then huh...
Well it's better than the secluded make-believe world you inhabit, cut
off from reality and living on the charity of other folk instead of
your own efforts.
and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks
heh...
We? You don't speak for me Slider, never have, never will.
On Fri, 04 May 2018 17:57:41 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I am simply astounded by these people. It's beyond... beyond.
### - imho (and observation heh) they're to be pitied really...
i mean, just imagine having to live like THAT all the time??
what a boring fuckin' world they have to live in!?
(i wouldn't wish it on even my worst enemy hah!)
You including Giuliani in that moronic comment? If you are, then your
brain needs to be rewired.
Boring? Giuliani? Try this:
Born into organised crime. However, during his term as Attorney
General, he ran the Mafia Commission Trials and indicted 11 OC figures including the heads of NY's 5 mafia families. There were numerous hit contracts put on his head.
Ran the Boesky and Millken trials and indictments.
Democrat, then independent, then republican. He ultimately considered
the democrats to be "naive" in their policies.
Mayor of NYC, esp: during September 2001. Lauded for the way he
handled this major terrorist attack.
Cleaned the fuck up NYC. I know, I was in NYC in 1998 and all the
yellow cabs had little stickers on them giving a police number to be
called if the cab driver gave any trouble. Every. Single. Cab. And
the streets were safer than the city I live in now, Perth.
TIME Magazine "Person of the Year" in 2001.
Knighted by Queen Elizabeth on 13 February 2002 for his leadership
during 9/11 aftermath.
There is more, much, much more...
And you call this person "boring" Slider? He's lived more in 10
fucking minutes than you will, or have, in your entire life time. Good
God, you never fail to amaze me with your nonsense.
You need to get out of the house/unit/flat/apartment more often mate
:)
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:36:09 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 04 May 2018 17:57:41 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I am simply astounded by these people. It's beyond... beyond.
### - imho (and observation heh) they're to be pitied really...
i mean, just imagine having to live like THAT all the time??
what a boring fuckin' world they have to live in!?
(i wouldn't wish it on even my worst enemy hah!)
You including Giuliani in that moronic comment? If you are, then your
brain needs to be rewired.
Boring? Giuliani? Try this:
Born into organised crime. However, during his term as Attorney
General, he ran the Mafia Commission Trials and indicted 11 OC figures
including the heads of NY's 5 mafia families. There were numerous hit
contracts put on his head.
Ran the Boesky and Millken trials and indictments.
Democrat, then independent, then republican. He ultimately considered
the democrats to be "naive" in their policies.
Mayor of NYC, esp: during September 2001. Lauded for the way he
handled this major terrorist attack.
Cleaned the fuck up NYC. I know, I was in NYC in 1998 and all the
yellow cabs had little stickers on them giving a police number to be
called if the cab driver gave any trouble. Every. Single. Cab. And
the streets were safer than the city I live in now, Perth.
TIME Magazine "Person of the Year" in 2001.
Knighted by Queen Elizabeth on 13 February 2002 for his leadership
during 9/11 aftermath.
There is more, much, much more...
And you call this person "boring" Slider? He's lived more in 10
fucking minutes than you will, or have, in your entire life time. Good
God, you never fail to amaze me with your nonsense.
You need to get out of the house/unit/flat/apartment more often mate
:)
### - i'd be bored to tears living his empty life as some kinda living
sewer worker??
probably as much as he'd be bored/confused by mine!
chalk & cheese mate! day & night!
heaven & hell ;)
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:42:25 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2018 01:39:10 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied,
since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from
reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
There is no hell, don't you know that Slider?
### - oh there's a hell alright thang; a living one! ;)
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real to
'em!
You really believe all that shit about hell, is that utterly real to
you?
### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!
and hence the problem!
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope?
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a
time...
How do you know they were perfect? Genetic predisposition to whatever
you're complaining about, perhaps? Isn't that an imperfection?
### - they're as-perfect as children are perfect, no more no less...
There is no such thing as perfection Slider, just learn a bit of
cosmology, if the biggest picture you can imagine was perfect, there
would be no left over asteroids, comets, detritus etc from planetary
formation would there? Nothing is in balance, all is chaos, get used
to it.
### - sigh, think of the way children are still perfect as compared to
almost the completely corrupted adults that raise them, and then you'll be >able to approximate the context/metaphor in which all the above was
actually + originally said? duh! (if the penny's finally dropped, heh,
then you'll likely feel a little embarrassed by now for being such an
obvious blind twit all the time? hehehe that baldy bonce of yours getting
a bit red now around the gills is it?? lol gud! his ears are going all... >pink! :)))
lost now of course...
What morose bullshit you talk.
### - you really think the likes of old trumpy could ever return to 'his' >youthful + lost innocence by now?? riiiiight... he's lost alright! well >fucked!
not a chance in... hell! (heh)
(they don't know it's "evil" 'coz it's all they know/were ever shown to
know, so never had a hope, all involved/steeped in playing some crazy
mad
game for keeps, all makes pure sense to 'em too, it all adds-up for 'em
see? and perforce they're all completely insane...)
Jeez...
### - well you're almost as badly off AS them!? (fortunately for you
though, you've been chatting/hob-knobbing with yours truly for the last
few years heh and thus i've been able to gradually drag your lazy fat arse
up a couple or 3 levels in the meantime till you're now 'almost' (but
still not quite heh) nearly... sane?!
you may or may not yet get out! but currently you're still 'in' the hell >whereof i speak! ;)
quite a lot of wallyworld actually sucks that way? an amusement
theme-park
out front; a slaughterhouse behind the scenes... not exactly what you'd
call the best possible of all worlds then huh...
Well it's better than the secluded make-believe world you inhabit, cut
off from reality and living on the charity of other folk instead of
your own efforts.
### - you're the one's who's "cut-off" from reality thang (the 'real'
reality i mean, not some delusional + grandiose pipe-dream of material >'success' you indulge in + elevate yourself in your own eyes via; you vain >fuck! hah!)
and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks
heh...
We? You don't speak for me Slider, never have, never will.
### - smile; it's a common enough joke-saying from childhood you pedantic >ninny! :)
you really should try to cease being such a 'seri-arse' all the time? and >then lol ya might even be able to tune into the occasional 'jokes' people >make?? :)
(hehehe you're very slooow to catch-on sometimes ya know? and then you
jump in like you know what's going on and make an utter twat of yourself
in the process?? hehehe it's a good job i like ya sport or i'd be kicking >your bollocks up your dirtbox by now lol:)
lighten up dudearoo! :D
+ try looking before ya leap sometimes innit!
hehehehehe...
twats r us our new newsgroup
twats r us our new newsgroup
Oh shit, now we have to refer to you as "a buck sixty plus".
son of a bitch, it's always something new here. lol!
### - anything but, actually heh... very poor people i was born into,
simple peeps, hard working, and who's lives never actually amounted to
more than a hill of beans for all that struggling... they had 4 kids and
i, apparently, was the smart one with an iq of +160 (wont reveal to ya the actual figure above that as i don't wanna scare ya's hah! but it was a
quite a lot more!) ;)
### - anything but, actually heh... very poor people i was born into,
simple peeps, hard working, and who's lives never actually amounted to
more than a hill of beans for all that struggling... they had 4 kids and
i, apparently, was the smart one with an iq of +160 (wont reveal to ya the >> actual figure above that as i don't wanna scare ya's hah! but it was a
quite a lot more!) ;)
Oh shit, now we have to refer to you as "a buck sixty plus".
son of a bitch, it's always something new here. lol!
no co-pays here boss.
drugs? no charge for most
of the generic stuff.
medicare= the only way to fly.
$131 a month. and most shit is free.
but everybody else is for sure getting
the big uncle sam dick. Big Pharmie
hoses 'em good.
Just Saying Yes to Drug Companiesdrug prices.
Paul Krugman
http://tinyurl.com/yb28acae
May 14, 2018
America pays far more for drugs than any other major nation.
Last week we learned that Novartis, the Swiss drug company, had paid Michael Cohen — Donald Trump’s personal lawyer — $1.2 million for what ended up being a single meeting. Then, on Friday, Trump announced a “plan” to reduce
Why the scare quotes? Because the “plan” was mostly free of substance, controlled or otherwise. (O.K., there were a few ideas that experts found interesting, but they were fairly marginal.) During the 2016 campaign Trump promised to use thegovernment’s power, including Medicare’s role in paying for prescription drugs, to bring
And if someone tries to convince you that Trump really is getting tough on drug companies, there’s a simple response: If he were, his speech wouldn’t have sent drug stocks soaring.of His Populist Promises” is very much a dog-bites-man headline. But there are two substantive questions here. First, should the U.S. government actually do what Trump said
None of this should come as a surprise. At this point, “Trump Breaks Another
The answer to the first question is a definite yes. America pays far more for drugs than any other major nation, and there’s no good reason we should. Basically, when it comes to drugs, we’re Big Pharma’s sucker of last resort.company that develops a
Bear in mind that the way the drug business works can’t and doesn’t bear any resemblance to the Econ 101, supply-and-demand stories beloved by free-market enthusiasts. What we have, instead, is a patent system in which the
There is, in fact, a very strong case for government action to limit the prices drug companies can charge, just as there is a strong case for limiting monopoly power in general. And the fact that taxpayers pay a large share of drug costs both reinforcesthe case for limiting drug prices and gives the government a lot of leverage
Of course, draconian controls on drug prices could discourage innovation. But that’s not what anyone is talking about, and the benefits of moderate action would almost surely exceed the costs, for a variety of reasons: Drug companies would make lessper unit but sell more, they would spend less developing drugs that largely duplicate existing medication, and more. Oh, and America, with its unique unwillingness to bargain over drug prices, is basically subsidizing the rest of
So why aren’t we doing something about drug prices?power, probably including the right to refuse to cover drugs whose prices are exorbitant. And before
It’s true that simply granting Medicare the right to negotiate prices wouldn’t do much by itself. We’d also have to give Medicare some bargaining
Still, saying no might anger some Medicare recipients; polls show overwhelmingpublic support (92 percent!) for allowing Medicare to negotiate lower prices, but that support might erode once people realized what effective negotiation requires.
But questions about the details aren’t what’s stopping action on drug prices, since we haven’t even gotten to the point of letting Medicare try to bring prices down. And the reason we haven’t gotten to that point is, sadly, both simple and crude:Pharma has bought itself enough politicians to block policies that might reduce its
I’m not just talking about campaign contributions, either. I’m talking about the personal enrichment of politicians who serve pharma’s agenda.Representative Billy Tauzin, Republican of Louisiana — who shortly thereafter
After all, who put together the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act, which put taxpayers on the hook for seniors’ prescription drug costs but specifically prohibited Medicare from negotiating prices? The answer is that it was largely devised by then-
And Trump, far from draining this swamp, invited it in to the executive branch. Tom Price, his first secretary of health and human services, was forcedout because of his lavish travel spending — but his pharma-related conflicts of interest were
The bottom line is that American exceptionalism has prevailed again: We’re still the only major nation that lets the drug companies charge whatever they like.
***
Trump breaks yet another campaign promise in further support of
the super-rich, which is pretty much all he ever does. Dog bites man.
Drug stocks go up. News at eleven. The rural schmoes who voted this
guy in are not being helped by any of his policies. He just lied
to them over and over in his campaign, and he still is.
.
Why don't you go out into Trafalgar
Square and stand on a fucking SOAP BOX and tell people all about how
they are all deluded, all contaminating this world and so on and so
on. Don't have the guts? Could that be it?
worse! you defend it!
At least I DO something instead of talking crap about dreams and wally
world. Talk about fucking fantasy world. Jesus.
I don't give a rat's arse whether you care or not. It's irrelevant to
me. Me, on the other hand, I bother you - a lot.
You think about me
a lot, I know this.
You wonder if I tell the truth about my position
in life or whether it's dust. You wonder what it would be like to see something you want, and there are things you want, and then just go
and fucking buy it.
I can go tomorrow and cash down on a new Jeep 4WD, or a mid-range BMW,
and have plenty left over, plenty, without borrowing, or mortgaging my
house etc. I choose not to, being of the cautious fraternity who
keeps it in a box in a bank in a safety deposit vault somewhere in
some city just. in. case.
That's freedom. And I read philosophy, all the time, read poetry,
smoke dope, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke tobacco, I self educate,
I plumb the depths of the darknet, I can hit a plane tomorrow and fly
to Butan or Burma, or London, wherever I want.
Shit, slider, you might be the only cunt here who has a decent head of follicles :)
### - see? you 'defend' that whole lifestyle when that 'same' lifestyle
is
undeniably destroying not only the human race but the rest of the world
too??
Oh fuck off. Asteroids destroy, but even then they don't take out all
life. Climate change destroys (proper, historic, geologic climate
change) but doesn't eliminate life. How can bacteria, insects,
spiders, virii, rats and cockroaches and so on be destroyed by humans?
We can't even keep the cunts out of our houses and kitchens...
Perhaps a massive gamma ray burst from a near supernova, but even that
would only fry the part of the earth facing the beam.
if only you'd allow yourself to be a little more objective you'd decry
the
shit that's all around us too! the shit humanity's drowning in! but then
you 'refuse' to even examine that stance don't you?
I'm more open to evidence and the interpretation of evidence than
anyone and I'm far better read and educated than you. But I will not
agree with your bullshit until you put evidence in front of me - not "wallyworld" nonsense but proper evidence. Facts. So far, you are "factophobic" - change that, and I'll have some decent respect for
you.
### - but we've ALREADY destroyed 2 fucking THIRDS of the flora & fauna
ON
this planet???
2/3s!!! just... gone!?
gone forever!
so sooner rather than later me old chum! (and we haven't even 'included'
war yet LOL)
Nonsense. Just the larger animals and they die off every million or
so years in any case. Most of the biomass is foliage and most of that
is still around. You can still fly over the Brazilian jungle for a
couple of days without seeing any habitation whatsoever. What about
the biomass in bacteria? Or in the oceans, of which we still know
less than the dark side of the moon?
Some animals will go, and that's to make way for us. Eventually,
we'll leave this planet and that will be the epitome of evolution on
Gaia - the chicks will have been kicked out of the nest. Perhaps that
is what happens when life evolves on other planets in this enormous
cosmos of trillions of galaxies each with billions of stars/suns and
perhaps infinite extent.
Open that mind of yours before it's too late.
### - and how many YEARS of your LIFE did you give-over to that??
well ya didn't need to lol, so you effectively 'wasted' ALL that time!
not very smart then huh! :)))
Shit I enjoyed it. Corner office on the 30th floor, young attractive
women working for me, power and reputation, plenty of money, expense accounts, travel all over the place business class minimum, bank
priveliges, etc etc. What's NOT to like?
Ever heard of a safe deposit box? I don't believe in keeping
everything electronic. I like keeping at least half in negotiables.
### - and those deposit boxes are gonna remain open when all the banks
are
shut huh?
riiiight...
plus defo NOT very smart! not smart at all lol :)
You've never had one. You don't know the procedure. They are
physical boxes behind the biggest vaults you have ever seen, bars and generally in bank basements, bomb proof and open only to photo ID and
a dupllicate key. No one knows whats in them, except for the key
owner. Hi denom cash and gold, wills, papers, land titles - that sort
of thing. Oh yeah, never keep one of these in your own name. Find
someone you trust with your life (that's that hardest part).
What's not smart about that?
Watch the videos dumb ass. :)
trump this and trump that, and then trump that again followed by endless trump...
lives to hate wrote...
trump this and trump that, and then trump that again followed by endless trump...
### - because you've run out of absolutely 'anything' else interesting to say, what ever again??
even to the point of *pretending* (yes folks: pretending! duh!) to have interesting lucid dreams; perforce which you CAN'T reveal because you DIDN'T actually have any! LOL LOL :D
i mean, just HOW NUTS is that???
completely! :)
e.g., first it's the man with burning eyes? and then burning trees??
when in-truth it's all just been a pack of... flamin' lies! :D
the fuckin' fucker's fucked folks!
and is apparently a pathological liar to boot!
lol what a 'team' you & trumpy would have made eh?
just like 2 peas in a pod lol :)
Unprecedented, bizarre things are happening in our country.
These videos are by some of the people who are documenting them.
For example, just to list another one, it is now official
Trump administration policy to “highlight uncertainties in
climate science” and “ignore, and not seek to characterize
or question, the science being conducted by Federal agencies
and outside entities.”
That’s right. The official policy of the White House is to
undermine climate scientists and ignore scientific findings
about climate change from its own federal agencies.
That is unconscionable, and most US allies find it bizarre.
.
On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:17:55 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
Why don't you go out into Trafalgar
Square and stand on a fucking SOAP BOX and tell people all about how
they are all deluded, all contaminating this world and so on and so
on. Don't have the guts? Could that be it?
### - did better than that old sport and published it in a book selling globally (sold another 9 copies just last month for instance, one of 'em
to india!) albeit stated indirectly, but it's basically all there for the 'discerning' eye to see/find...
"the revolution will not be televised!" ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJFhuOWgXg
but then being a blind baldy old cunt perforce ya can't/didn't see it hehehe...
worse! you defend it!
At least I DO something instead of talking crap about dreams and wally world. Talk about fucking fantasy world. Jesus.
### - you don't DO anything thang + the only thing you've ever really DONE was to rob the world blind and get fat while others literally starved to death all around you; 'crims' have no honour even amongst themselves apparently... but then i guess you can't help it really, after all it's in your blood and was handed down to ya from a long line of such crims dumped/shat there by the brits having a long day out hahaha... and now
there you's all are: shit imitating the very shits you came from and all thinkin' you're so great lol - shit kings, who don't even realise just how bad they smell! :)))
I don't give a rat's arse whether you care or not. It's irrelevant to
me. Me, on the other hand, I bother you - a lot.
### - only in your dreams mate lol :)
You think about me
a lot, I know this.
### - ahahaha ya think?? :D
You wonder if I tell the truth about my position
in life or whether it's dust. You wonder what it would be like to see something you want, and there are things you want, and then just go
and fucking buy it.
### - you don't even 'know' your own/true position lol...
you think just coz you got a few bucks you gots everything huh?
verily verily, it would be easier for a blind thang to shit through the
eye of a pack of camels than for him to ever 'buy' his way into heaven??
LOL :)))
I can go tomorrow and cash down on a new Jeep 4WD, or a mid-range BMW,
and have plenty left over, plenty, without borrowing, or mortgaging my house etc. I choose not to, being of the cautious fraternity who
keeps it in a box in a bank in a safety deposit vault somewhere in
some city just. in. case.
That's freedom. And I read philosophy, all the time, read poetry,
smoke dope, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke tobacco, I self educate,
I plumb the depths of the darknet, I can hit a plane tomorrow and fly
to Butan or Burma, or London, wherever I want.
### - heh you think you're free, when all ya really did was to lock
yourself (and your riches) in a box and put them in safety storage
probably never to be seen/used again, while you spend what left of the
rest of your life standing guard over it hehehe...
idiot! :)))
Shit, slider, you might be the only cunt here who has a decent head of follicles :)
### - fyi (and major irritation hah) have still gots hair down to just
above my waist lol, admittedly s'getting a bit thin on top these days and even startin' to see bit's a scalp peeping through, but then i haven't
gone grey yet either... so must be doin' something right huh ;)
### - see? you 'defend' that whole lifestyle when that 'same' lifestyle
is
undeniably destroying not only the human race but the rest of the world
too??
Oh fuck off. Asteroids destroy, but even then they don't take out all life. Climate change destroys (proper, historic, geologic climate
change) but doesn't eliminate life. How can bacteria, insects,
spiders, virii, rats and cockroaches and so on be destroyed by humans?
We can't even keep the cunts out of our houses and kitchens...
Perhaps a massive gamma ray burst from a near supernova, but even that would only fry the part of the earth facing the beam.
### - denial denial, all is denial :)
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/27/world-on-track-to-lose-two-thirds-of-wild-animals-by-2020-major-report-warns
if only you'd allow yourself to be a little more objective you'd decry
the
shit that's all around us too! the shit humanity's drowning in! but then >> you 'refuse' to even examine that stance don't you?
I'm more open to evidence and the interpretation of evidence than
anyone and I'm far better read and educated than you. But I will not
agree with your bullshit until you put evidence in front of me - not "wallyworld" nonsense but proper evidence. Facts. So far, you are "factophobic" - change that, and I'll have some decent respect for
you.
### - but we've ALREADY destroyed 2 fucking THIRDS of the flora & fauna
ON
this planet???
2/3s!!! just... gone!?
gone forever!
so sooner rather than later me old chum! (and we haven't even 'included' >> war yet LOL)
Nonsense. Just the larger animals and they die off every million or
so years in any case. Most of the biomass is foliage and most of that
is still around. You can still fly over the Brazilian jungle for a
couple of days without seeing any habitation whatsoever. What about
the biomass in bacteria? Or in the oceans, of which we still know
less than the dark side of the moon?
Some animals will go, and that's to make way for us. Eventually,
we'll leave this planet and that will be the epitome of evolution on
Gaia - the chicks will have been kicked out of the nest. Perhaps that
is what happens when life evolves on other planets in this enormous
cosmos of trillions of galaxies each with billions of stars/suns and perhaps infinite extent.
Open that mind of yours before it's too late.
### - you read the above? first open your eyes! then weep!
### - and how many YEARS of your LIFE did you give-over to that??
well ya didn't need to lol, so you effectively 'wasted' ALL that time!
not very smart then huh! :)))
Shit I enjoyed it. Corner office on the 30th floor, young attractive
women working for me, power and reputation, plenty of money, expense accounts, travel all over the place business class minimum, bank priveliges, etc etc. What's NOT to like?
### - said the fat pig wallowing in its own shite LOL :))))
Ever heard of a safe deposit box? I don't believe in keeping
everything electronic. I like keeping at least half in negotiables.
### - and those deposit boxes are gonna remain open when all the banks
are
shut huh?
riiiight...
plus defo NOT very smart! not smart at all lol :)
You've never had one. You don't know the procedure. They are
physical boxes behind the biggest vaults you have ever seen, bars and generally in bank basements, bomb proof and open only to photo ID and
a dupllicate key. No one knows whats in them, except for the key
owner. Hi denom cash and gold, wills, papers, land titles - that sort
of thing. Oh yeah, never keep one of these in your own name. Find
someone you trust with your life (that's that hardest part).
What's not smart about that?
### - having to maybe break into a hugely protected vault such as you describe when it (and every other bank/vault the world over) has been permanently closed overnight in say the scenario of an economic
collapse/run on the bank? - and you call yourself an intelligent
survivalist who thinks ahead?? lol you really haven't thought this fully through have ya :)
thang knows what he's doing! - riiiight... :)
The Atlanticdemocracy and rule of law, and the traditional conventions of press coverage prevent
Trump’s Remarkable Admission About Dishonesty
The president is open in his affection for oppressive rulers and in saying it’s acceptable to lie to the public. Why does anyone still doubt he means it?
DAVID A. GRAHAM
6-15-2018
http://tinyurl.com/y9xz9wa5
For some reason, there remains a public debate about whether the president of the United States is honest or inclined toward autocracy. There’s a certain logic to this: Voters don’t want to believe they elected a chronic liar or a skeptic of
Yet on a regular basis, Donald Trump speaks publicly and makes clear both his dishonesty and autocratic impulses. Friday was an especially clear demonstration.through many of his greatest hits, the most notable elements were his praise for
The president strode out from the White House in the morning, first appearing on Fox and Friends alongside Steve Doocy, and then taking some questions from reporters on the lawn of the executive mansion. While he covered a range of topics, and went
While Trump has shown surprising deference and affection for autocratic rulersin the past, including effusive praise for Kim after the summit earlier this week, Friday’s comments were still unusual.
“He is the head of a country and I mean he is the strong head,” Trump said. “Don't let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”that North Koreans react that way to Kim is that he is a brutal dictator who runs enormous prison camps and a repressive state. Lest anyone believe that Trump is simply naive
I want my people to do the same. It ought to go without saying that the reason
“Just before you met with him, he cleaned house. Three of his top hardlinershe fired,” Doocy began.
“When you say he fired ... fired may be a nice word,” Trump replied. The president later claimed he was being “sarcastic,” a move he and aides have often employed to walk back egregious statements, even when there is no indication of humor atthe moment, and even though his latest statement about Kim matches his earlier praise for
Trump also misrepresented the agreement he signed with Kim, saying that it contained detailed steps for denuclearization of North Korea—it doesn’t.Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and campaign chairman Paul
The other most notable moment came during the gaggle, when reporters asked Trump about a statement to The New York Times concerning a June 2016 meeting at
“That's irrelevant,” Trump said Friday. “It's a statement to The New York Times, the phony, failing New York Times. That's not a statement to a hightribunal of judges. That's a statement to the phony New York Times.”
In short, the president is saying that it’s totally acceptable to lie to thepress, and by extension the public, as long as he is not under oath in the justice system. (As I’ve reported, Trump is far more honest under oath.) As a
There were other dishonest statements peppered throughout his remarks. He saidthat the inspector general’s report found “total bias” in the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails; in fact, it found the reverse, saying political bias did
Trump also continues to misrepresent the reasons why children of unauthorized immigrants are currently being separated from their parents at the border, creating a political firestorm. That decision, as Attorney General Jeff Sessions has acknowledged,is the direct result of a policy change that Sessions implemented in May. Nonetheless, the president has falsely blamed it on a law passed by Democrats, ignoring that Democrats do not control Congress and have not passed any new laws about separations, yet the change began only last month.
“That is a Democrat bill. That is Democrats wanting to do that,” Trump said. “And they could solve it very easily by getting together but they thinkit's a good election point.”
There’s a long list of these lies, both in what Trump said today and runningback for months. It becomes tiresome to fact-check them, trying to prove that Trump is not telling the truth about them. But there’s no need to take reporters’ word for
***
Sleaze king. Anti-reason. Anti-truth. Anti-rule-of-law.
Autocratic friend of autocrats. Dictator material.
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving by doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at home & abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 11:11:03 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
It definitely isn't 'by accident'. But you didn't say why you think
he's doing it. So... maybe you look 'deeper'. :)
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite >deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving by >doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at home & >abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 20:07:40 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan ><david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 11:11:03 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving by >>> doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
It definitely isn't 'by accident'. But you didn't say why you think
he's doing it. So... maybe you look 'deeper'. :)
### - heh just didn't wanna tell ya what to think kinda thing, but if
you'd like an opinion i'd prolly suggest it's all because he isn't really >even a proper politician! in reality he's just some high-flyer
empty-headed businessman-shit, shipped-in expressly to expertly cook the >books, again! just a glorified accountant!
that if ya don't really 'have' a policy per se, then it can easily be >covered-over/up with a temporary/stop-gap policy of out & out controversy! >shoving everyone around until they's started shoving back, and just
getting everyone at-it! pressing ALL the buttons his 'team' of advisors
can possibly come up with to press! the world's going down the drain and i >really don't think even gives a damn! he's havin' the time of his life!
personally, am not at all impressed with him even a little bit! 5 minutes
in the same room as he and i'd prolly have to jump straight out the
nearest window just to get away from it lol :)
an utterly boring man with whom i have utterly nothing in common! nor
likely to!
he might as well be an alien afaic, although am sure i'd find one of those >ultimately more interesting than having to sit around listening to say him >banging-on about facts & figures all day long as am sure he does... (ewww >shudder...)
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 20:46:30 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 20:07:40 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
<david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 11:11:03 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving
by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at
home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
It definitely isn't 'by accident'. But you didn't say why you think
he's doing it. So... maybe you look 'deeper'. :)
### - heh just didn't wanna tell ya what to think kinda thing, but if
you'd like an opinion i'd prolly suggest it's all because he isn't
really
even a proper politician! in reality he's just some high-flyer
empty-headed businessman-shit, shipped-in expressly to expertly cook the
books, again! just a glorified accountant!
that if ya don't really 'have' a policy per se, then it can easily be
covered-over/up with a temporary/stop-gap policy of out & out
controversy!
shoving everyone around until they's started shoving back, and just
getting everyone at-it! pressing ALL the buttons his 'team' of advisors
can possibly come up with to press! the world's going down the drain
and i
really don't think even gives a damn! he's havin' the time of his life!
personally, am not at all impressed with him even a little bit! 5
minutes
in the same room as he and i'd prolly have to jump straight out the
nearest window just to get away from it lol :)
an utterly boring man with whom i have utterly nothing in common! nor
likely to!
he might as well be an alien afaic, although am sure i'd find one of
those
ultimately more interesting than having to sit around listening to say
him
banging-on about facts & figures all day long as am sure he does...
(ewww
shudder...)
Slider, I thought you were on to something earlier in this thread, but
now you've shown that was just an accident and you're back to your
empty headed ways.
And, Brian, who gives a flying fuck whether Trump "impresses" you? Are
you kidding? I'd be surprised if you even vote and you certainly have
no power. Come to think of it, nor does Dave. He can rant and rave
all he wants and it won't change the politacal tableu there one iota. California dreaming indeed.
Trump is playing the long game, I'm convinced of it. He is far from
empty headed. Just immensely frustrated. He wants America back for Americans and building a wall, getting rid of the illegals, trying to
bring manufacturing and services (like call centres etc) back to
Americans (opposing big profits for the benefit of the little guy,
like you and I) and so on - all done as the first real patriot for a
long time in that country.
And here I was thinking you had a handle on it.
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is happening, facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump is
maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way.
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
California dreaming indeed.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving by >>> doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is happening,
facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump is
maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the
puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way.
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed pig!
who doesn't give a damn about anything except his own little fucked up >business world thang...
make no mistake my friend, he does not have yours or mine best interests
at heart whatsoever!
and perforce all the fucking right-wing are eventually gonna rally around
the bum because THAT'S the only interests at heart he has and believes in! >right is right! the rule of fist! peace through strength (riiiight...)
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come to
that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his own >doorstep??
he's militarising the world!
and that's a good thing, right?
riiiiight....
On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 8:12:36 PM UTC-7, thang ornerythinchus wrote:
California dreaming indeed.
California has long been and still is the herald of the future.
We are in many ways where the world really needs to be heading,
not where it is currently retreating to in a disgusting,
cowardly attempt to Crawl Up Its Own Asshole Again. :)
California has ~40 million people (Australia has ~25 million).
If it was a country, CA would be the world's 5th largest economy.
Indeed, California's economy recently surpassed the entire UK.
Australia has a high GDP per capita at ~50K, but California's overall
GDP is ~58K and the GDP per capita of the San Francisco Bay area
is ~94K (Perth's in comparison is ~72K and Sydney's is ~80K).
California has long been a global trendsetter in popular culture.
It was the origin of the film industry, the hippie counterculture,
the internet, and the personal computer, among others.
We are doing many of the things the rest of the world needs
to do if it wants to survive and prosper long into the future.
For example, we have some of the most aggressive renewable energy
goals in the United States, with a target for California to obtain
a third of its electricity from renewables by 2020 (and a goal of
50% by 2050). We are fighting the Trump administration legally on
multiple fronts to stop it from poisoning the rest of the planet.
Anyone who defends Trump is trapped in lame regressive patterns.
.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:41:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving
by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at
home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is happening,
facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump is
maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the
puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way.
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed pig!
Well at least you left the fucking thread in, unlike David Jerome.
Thanks for the continuity.
who doesn't give a damn about anything except his own little fucked up
business world thang...
You presume that. There is no evidence. He can be both you know - a
canny and tough businessman *and* a patriot. JFK was - he was worth
close to a billion, Washington was a patriot and was the wealthiest
POTUS until Trump. The Clintons are not impoverished. Hoover was
worth uncountable millions - all mining related. Many have had major businesses and been POTUS and of course been patriots. Trump is
definitely a patriot and you are letting your dogma and predispositions/cant/biases get in the way of clear thought.
make no mistake my friend, he does not have yours or mine best interests
at heart whatsoever!
No he doesn't. He has the USA's best interests at heart.
and perforce all the fucking right-wing are eventually gonna rally
around
the bum because THAT'S the only interests at heart he has and believes
in!
right is right! the rule of fist! peace through strength (riiiight...)
Wrong. There are shades of right and shades of left - Stalin and Mao
were left, and look at what they did to their own peoples. Tens of
millions murdered, starved, disposessed. They both forged despotic
armies which enslaved vast parts of the world. Again, you throw
cheap, thoughtless slogans instead of using that vaunted 160 IQ to
clearly, incisively think.
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come to
that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his own
doorstep??
Absolutely. We are a great strategic partner to the US, always have
been. Presidents come and go - our friendship with the US will last
forever and goes both ways.
he's militarising the world!
What nonsense. I expect better from you, ok? The fucking world is
already militarised, always has been, may always be so (I don't know,
it's a reasonable extrapolation but I don't have a crystal ball,
unlike you).
and that's a good thing, right?
No, it's an incorrect, deluded thing. Read history for fucks sake
Slider.
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:57:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:41:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite
deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually achieving >>>>> by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at
home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is happening, >>>> facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump is
maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the
puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way.
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed pig!
Well at least you left the fucking thread in, unlike David Jerome.
Thanks for the continuity.
### - i do it because i realise the difficulty you have with all this, but >you still have to know that it's an otherwise common + accepted practice
to snip remarks and/or to highlight things/quotes in such a manner and
it's NOT necessarily an affront? (e.g., out of a whole rambling discourse >someone might only pick up on a single, possibly even completely outta >context, remark, and 'go' on that alone! and it's valid to do so! that's
how the majority operate! to then demand them to start tip-toeing around
you because you've gots a bit of a limp in that direction or whatever in
that dept., is actually asking a bit much as you're asking 'them' to
change rather than you having to go to some extra lengths yourself... it's >your problem really not theirs, and can't justifiably be pushed-off onto >others?)
who doesn't give a damn about anything except his own little fucked up
business world thang...
You presume that. There is no evidence. He can be both you know - a
canny and tough businessman *and* a patriot. JFK was - he was worth
close to a billion, Washington was a patriot and was the wealthiest
POTUS until Trump. The Clintons are not impoverished. Hoover was
worth uncountable millions - all mining related. Many have had major
businesses and been POTUS and of course been patriots. Trump is
definitely a patriot and you are letting your dogma and
predispositions/cant/biases get in the way of clear thought.
### - he ONLY knows his OWN lifestyle thang! and typically fights/aims to >perpetuate only that which he knows! lol if he came to brixton and lived
here with me for a while (perish the thought! shudder...) he's be
completely outta his depth! lost! floundering even! and lol prolly
wouldn't even last a minute before begging to be able to get back to his >comfy little... world!
iow: there's a LOT of 'Reality' right here where am living that he doesn't >know fuck-all about! is completely unaware of! is terrified of actually
hah! and perforce avoids like the proverbial plague!
i.e., at least obama 'could' walk into a bar and at least 'pretend' to be >having a pint with his fellow man? (true it was ultimately only a pr
exercise heh, but silly-bollocks couldn't even 'conceive' of ever doing
such a thing?? it wouldn't even occur to him!)
make no mistake my friend, he does not have yours or mine best interests >>> at heart whatsoever!
No he doesn't. He has the USA's best interests at heart.
### - i doubt he even has 'that' sport hah!
he's JUST a businessman! (think/imagine de-nero in that movie 'Limitless'
for a more complete view of the fucker heh... corrupt as they come! geez)
and perforce all the fucking right-wing are eventually gonna rally
around
the bum because THAT'S the only interests at heart he has and believes
in!
right is right! the rule of fist! peace through strength (riiiight...)
Wrong. There are shades of right and shades of left - Stalin and Mao
were left, and look at what they did to their own peoples. Tens of
millions murdered, starved, disposessed. They both forged despotic
armies which enslaved vast parts of the world. Again, you throw
cheap, thoughtless slogans instead of using that vaunted 160 IQ to
clearly, incisively think.
### - 'too far' left & 'too far' right and it all starts getting cloudy...
ya have to walk in the middle (or rather: between thus avoiding) those 2 >mountains, not climb them ;)
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come to
that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his own
doorstep??
Absolutely. We are a great strategic partner to the US, always have
been. Presidents come and go - our friendship with the US will last
forever and goes both ways.
### - lol i reckon he'd prolly sell his own mother if there was a profit
in it hah!
(band called 10cc: "betcha sell your mother, you could buy another..." >hehehe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foT1ITubs1A - great lyrics heh ;)
he's militarising the world!
What nonsense. I expect better from you, ok? The fucking world is
already militarised, always has been, may always be so (I don't know,
it's a reasonable extrapolation but I don't have a crystal ball,
unlike you).
### - all those billions of dollars of arms to saudi? south korea? japan?
and more??
he's certainly doin' HIS bit for world peace then innit lol (riiiight...)
and that's a good thing, right?
No, it's an incorrect, deluded thing. Read history for fucks sake
Slider.
### - 110 billion in arms to saudi alone 'since' he took office!?
AND all the rest?? ya don't need fucking a crystal ball to see all that
going on lol :)
peace through strength??? (iow: via war of necessary! easily!)
so why doesn't he help the 'poor' peeps IF he's such a nice chap??
NO! he's tightening the fucking purse strings even tighter on them instead!
LESS health care instead of more? (only poor people need help with health >care in a system where only the wealthy can get decent treatment ffs!)
THEY (the poor and dispossessed) are having to pay for the errors the
wealthy made???
where's the justice in that??
he's currently running the poor over en-mass with a fucking steamroller >thang!
oh he's a humanitarian alright! a real man of the people!
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight......
:P
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:30:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:57:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:41:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite >>>>>> deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually
achieving
by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at >>>>>> home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either!
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is
happening,
facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump is >>>>> maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the
puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way.
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed pig!
Well at least you left the fucking thread in, unlike David Jerome.
Thanks for the continuity.
### - i do it because i realise the difficulty you have with all this,
but
you still have to know that it's an otherwise common + accepted practice
to snip remarks and/or to highlight things/quotes in such a manner and
it's NOT necessarily an affront? (e.g., out of a whole rambling
discourse
someone might only pick up on a single, possibly even completely outta
context, remark, and 'go' on that alone! and it's valid to do so! that's
how the majority operate! to then demand them to start tip-toeing around
you because you've gots a bit of a limp in that direction or whatever in
that dept., is actually asking a bit much as you're asking 'them' to
change rather than you having to go to some extra lengths yourself...
it's
your problem really not theirs, and can't justifiably be pushed-off onto
others?)
You've completely missed the point. I KNOW all this, I've been using NGs/usenet since the late 80's, I know usenetiquette (and I use paid
servers, unlike you lot of text-only parasites lol).
What David Jerome does, and Chris too, is ignorantly snip *everything*
which on a modern newsreader like Agent 7 doesn't attribute a response
to any particular poster's reply. It's guesswork due to lack of
manners. You with me now?
who doesn't give a damn about anything except his own little fucked up >>>> business world thang...
You presume that. There is no evidence. He can be both you know - a
canny and tough businessman *and* a patriot. JFK was - he was worth
close to a billion, Washington was a patriot and was the wealthiest
POTUS until Trump. The Clintons are not impoverished. Hoover was
worth uncountable millions - all mining related. Many have had major
businesses and been POTUS and of course been patriots. Trump is
definitely a patriot and you are letting your dogma and
predispositions/cant/biases get in the way of clear thought.
### - he ONLY knows his OWN lifestyle thang! and typically fights/aims
to
perpetuate only that which he knows! lol if he came to brixton and lived
here with me for a while (perish the thought! shudder...) he's be
completely outta his depth! lost! floundering even! and lol prolly
wouldn't even last a minute before begging to be able to get back to his
comfy little... world!
iow: there's a LOT of 'Reality' right here where am living that he
doesn't
know fuck-all about! is completely unaware of! is terrified of actually
hah! and perforce avoids like the proverbial plague!
i.e., at least obama 'could' walk into a bar and at least 'pretend' to
be
having a pint with his fellow man? (true it was ultimately only a pr
exercise heh, but silly-bollocks couldn't even 'conceive' of ever doing
such a thing?? it wouldn't even occur to him!)
make no mistake my friend, he does not have yours or mine best
interests
at heart whatsoever!
No he doesn't. He has the USA's best interests at heart.
### - i doubt he even has 'that' sport hah!
Yeah he has. He's a patriot after all, now I see that.
he's JUST a businessman! (think/imagine de-nero in that movie
'Limitless'
for a more complete view of the fucker heh... corrupt as they come!
geez)
*just*? Like practically every POTUS has had business interests?
Don't you have any superannuation Slider? That's a business interest, depending on the market for your returns.
Shades of grey pal. You cannot reduce the irreducible.
and perforce all the fucking right-wing are eventually gonna rally
around
the bum because THAT'S the only interests at heart he has and believes >>>> in!
right is right! the rule of fist! peace through strength (riiiight...)
Wrong. There are shades of right and shades of left - Stalin and Mao
were left, and look at what they did to their own peoples. Tens of
millions murdered, starved, disposessed. They both forged despotic
armies which enslaved vast parts of the world. Again, you throw
cheap, thoughtless slogans instead of using that vaunted 160 IQ to
clearly, incisively think.
### - 'too far' left & 'too far' right and it all starts getting
cloudy...
ya have to walk in the middle (or rather: between thus avoiding) those 2
mountains, not climb them ;)
Those mountains are illusions. People can have a conservative bent
while being assiduous liberatarians who grow their own pot. You
cannot put a human mind into a round or square hole, far too complex a
thing.
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come to >>>> that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his
own
doorstep??
Absolutely. We are a great strategic partner to the US, always have
been. Presidents come and go - our friendship with the US will last
forever and goes both ways.
### - lol i reckon he'd prolly sell his own mother if there was a profit
in it hah!
(band called 10cc: "betcha sell your mother, you could buy another..."
hehehe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foT1ITubs1A - great lyrics heh ;)
he's militarising the world!
What nonsense. I expect better from you, ok? The fucking world is
already militarised, always has been, may always be so (I don't know,
it's a reasonable extrapolation but I don't have a crystal ball,
unlike you).
### - all those billions of dollars of arms to saudi? south korea?
japan?
and more??
he's certainly doin' HIS bit for world peace then innit lol
(riiiight...)
He's stopped war with DPRK for the time being. If Hillary had been
elected we would probably be at war with both Russia and DPRK/China by
now.
and that's a good thing, right?
No, it's an incorrect, deluded thing. Read history for fucks sake
Slider.
### - 110 billion in arms to saudi alone 'since' he took office!?
AND all the rest?? ya don't need fucking a crystal ball to see all that
going on lol :)
peace through strength??? (iow: via war of necessary! easily!)
so why doesn't he help the 'poor' peeps IF he's such a nice chap??
Listen mate, peep is the sound a fucking chook (chicken) makes. The
word is "people". Don't be cute, you're too old. Also, look up the
word "affectation".
NO! he's tightening the fucking purse strings even tighter on them
instead!
LESS health care instead of more? (only poor people need help with
health
care in a system where only the wealthy can get decent treatment ffs!)
THEY (the poor and dispossessed) are having to pay for the errors the
wealthy made???
where's the justice in that??
he's currently running the poor over en-mass with a fucking steamroller
thang!
Well when you consider the "poor" includes a good many who are POOR
due to laziness, parasitism, dirty personal habits, stupidity and criminality, why shouldn't he? :)
I mean, look at you. You're poor. Why are you bleeding the state
Slider? You seem of moderate intellect, why didn't you go to night
school like me, get a decent education, work long weeks and stuff some
money under the pillow for a FUCKING RAINY DAY???
Why shouldn't he, or May, or Putin, steamroller YOU? You're poor due
to personal choice, not the vagaries of fate. Give me a break you
lazy cunt :)
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:40:29 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 07:38:37 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:30:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:57:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:41:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com> >>>>>>> wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite >>>>>>>> deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually
achieving
by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at >>>>>>>> home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either! >>>>>>>>
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is
happening,
facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump >>>>>>> is
maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the >>>>>>> puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way. >>>>>>>
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed
pig!
Well at least you left the fucking thread in, unlike David Jerome.
Thanks for the continuity.
### - i do it because i realise the difficulty you have with all this, >>>> but
you still have to know that it's an otherwise common + accepted
practice
to snip remarks and/or to highlight things/quotes in such a manner and >>>> it's NOT necessarily an affront? (e.g., out of a whole rambling
discourse
someone might only pick up on a single, possibly even completely outta >>>> context, remark, and 'go' on that alone! and it's valid to do so!
that's
how the majority operate! to then demand them to start tip-toeing
around
you because you've gots a bit of a limp in that direction or whatever
in
that dept., is actually asking a bit much as you're asking 'them' to
change rather than you having to go to some extra lengths yourself...
it's
your problem really not theirs, and can't justifiably be pushed-off
onto
others?)
You've completely missed the point. I KNOW all this, I've been using
NGs/usenet since the late 80's, I know usenetiquette (and I use paid
servers, unlike you lot of text-only parasites lol).
What David Jerome does, and Chris too, is ignorantly snip *everything*
which on a modern newsreader like Agent 7 doesn't attribute a response
to any particular poster's reply. It's guesswork due to lack of
manners. You with me now?
### - have 'been' with you (on this) all along matey! i totally
understand
your dilemma and how it affects you! what you don't understand, however,
is that it's easy for us so-called 'normal' people to do exactly what
you
say you have difficulty with? that it's actually only "ignorant" from
'your' pov alone because you can't make those leaps (of unspoken
intellect) that seems to come so easy to the likes of us! (i even
spelled
it out for ya above and you still didn't get it?) but which is not
through
any fault of yours other than you were born a bit different to all these
others is all...
No you're not interpositioning what I've left unspoken. That is, that
I don't, like you, stay glued to this NG as though my very life
depends on it. I come and go intermittently, and rather infrequently.
To do so, I leave my reader (Forte Agent) in stasis from when I read
the messages to the next time I visit which might be up to a week
away. I have a life, which apparently, you do not.
When I reappear, I update my reader (Agent) which consigns all of my
old messaged to "read". I then update my message window to "unread"
which displays on those new messages appearing over the time since I
last updated/posted. This means that I need at least *some* vestige
of a thread to reconnect the new unread messages to my last postings
and the responses, if any, since I last updated my reader (Agent).
Because, Slider, I can't be fucked digging around in the cesspool of
old, read messages trying to do what any reasonably thoughtful cunt
should have done in the first place - which is left in some part of
the message thread so posters can find their place and ensure they are responding to the latest posts etc etc.
You fucking presumptuous dill.
i.e., when presented with a single line that's been say snipped from a
far
longer post and is now isolated, you're supposed to see what the they
'mean' (and/or imply) by doing that with it... and it can be many
things;
a change of subject or a tangent thereof albeit still loosely related to
the original context, and/or may be them highlighting what they consider
to be the perhaps more salient point which they either agree with or the
reverse! there's no rules to shit like that? thus one has to try and
see/understand what they're saying & why + respond accordingly, it can
even be a joke or a criticism, and in some instances both! can even be
rhetorical! so it's no good shouting at us because there's something we
can do but you can't? (besides which, it's no biggie anyway so you
shouldn't really make such a fuss? if there's something ya don't
understand then simply just ask ffs?) :)
What a steaming pile of bollocks. Of course there are rules to
usenet. But you wouldn't know, you use free text only services or
fucking Spoogle, which fucked up Deja News when it bought it out and
then left it to ferment and rot. You don't have the dollar or two to
spend on a decent server with great retention and authenticated
posting and rules and TOS and so on. You just fester in your cosmic ingnorance, as per usual. Oh, here's the smiley ... :)
By the way, shouting in usenet is UPPER CASE. I *never* use upper
case. Therefore, I do not SHOUT.
You complete, moronic dolt.
old trumpy-boy is far-right! (not extreme far right, at least not yet,
hah!) so all the attributes of the right-wing are
accentuated/exaggerated
in him!
for 'sanity to prevail, however, ya have to choose the most
'intelligent'
spot available!
which, as it turns out, is only 'just' left of centre ;)
There are no "spots". The human mind and brain (yep, they are two
separate things) are the most complex and intricate objects and things
known to man, and we can see to the edge of a radius of around 45
billion light years.
And you want to reduce that to a "spot"? I thought you had an IQ of
160+?
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come >>>>>> to
that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his >>>>>> own
doorstep??
Absolutely. We are a great strategic partner to the US, always have >>>>> been. Presidents come and go - our friendship with the US will last >>>>> forever and goes both ways.
### - lol i reckon he'd prolly sell his own mother if there was a
profit
in it hah!
(band called 10cc: "betcha sell your mother, you could buy another..." >>>> hehehe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foT1ITubs1A - great lyrics heh ;)
he's militarising the world!
What nonsense. I expect better from you, ok? The fucking world is
already militarised, always has been, may always be so (I don't know, >>>>> it's a reasonable extrapolation but I don't have a crystal ball,
unlike you).
### - all those billions of dollars of arms to saudi? south korea?
japan?
and more??
he's certainly doin' HIS bit for world peace then innit lol
(riiiight...)
He's stopped war with DPRK for the time being. If Hillary had been
elected we would probably be at war with both Russia and DPRK/China by
now.
### - nonsense! the left don't start wars by confronting things! the
left
wants to talk & negotiate, come to some amicable deal, whereas the
rights'
peace through: 'we'll punch yer fuckin' lights out mate if you don't
comply' isn't ABOUT negotiation; it's about coercion and force!
Oh yeah, just like Joe Stalin when he did his deal with Hitler to
invade and partition the eastern portion of Poland when Hitler invaded
and occupied the western portion of Poland. And later, Joe took those
17,000 Polish officers out to the Katyn forest and executed them - he
didn't like intelligentsia hanging around.
Joe ran the Soviet Union by the way, the CCCP (Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics). The CCCP was a little bit to the left, wouldn't
you say?
You don't know the fuck what you're talking about. I'm wasting my
time with you. You're a fucking idiot with zero knowledge about
practically everything of any importance. Why don't you spend your
remaining years on this spinning rock getting some KNOWLEDGE under
your fucking belt?
Perhaps the only thing I would consider more important would be
a chance to get rid of the truly horrible "Citizen's United" ruling
that unleashed massive amounts of *money* on every political race.
But THIS - this needs to happen everywhere.
It's impossible to even have a genuinely representative democracy
when each party that wins keeps diabolically rigging the system
to be perpetually in its own favor. That has got to be stopped.
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