On Mon, 07 May 2018 01:44:41 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:42:25 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2018 01:39:10 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied,
since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from
reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
There is no hell, don't you know that Slider?
### - oh there's a hell alright thang; a living one! ;)
Yep, and generally for those who make it so. You could be a lot more cheerful Slider, more positive, more optimistic. *That* attitude in
the face of adversity is admirable. To let life get you down is not admirable. You seem to me, and I could be wrong, to have let life
generally smite you almost in the biblical manner. You seem negative, pessimistic and without hope. That doesn't take courage and if that's
your hell, it's purely of your own making.
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real to
'em!
You really believe all that shit about hell, is that utterly real to
you?
### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!
and hence the problem!
No idea what the fuck you're talking about. Who is "them"?
Can you
be for once specific? Name names, groups, tribes, cultures, peoples, nations, races. Give me some fucking FACTS instead of your insane
nonsense.
Very few people really believe in hell slider. Surely you know that?
If they really believed in hell, I mean *really* believed, there would
be very little greed, corruption, sloth, envy, murder and the
remainder of the 10 deadlies. Therefore, anyone who talks about hell
is generally only giving lip service to the outdated, fictional
notion.
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope?
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a
time...
How do you know they were perfect? Genetic predisposition to whatever
you're complaining about, perhaps? Isn't that an imperfection?
### - they're as-perfect as children are perfect, no more no less...
So, let's look at an anancephalic child. Born without most of the
brain. Is that perfect? A Downs Syndrome child. A child born with
one of the many thousands of possible significant genetic mis-codings.
A child born with a personality defect, say schizoid personality
disorder.
As perfect as they are perfect, slider? Do you see what nonsense you
spout? Will you ever learn?
There is no such thing as perfection Slider, just learn a bit of
cosmology, if the biggest picture you can imagine was perfect, there
would be no left over asteroids, comets, detritus etc from planetary
formation would there? Nothing is in balance, all is chaos, get used
to it.
### - sigh, think of the way children are still perfect as compared to
almost the completely corrupted adults that raise them, and then you'll
be
able to approximate the context/metaphor in which all the above was
actually + originally said? duh! (if the penny's finally dropped, heh,
then you'll likely feel a little embarrassed by now for being such an
obvious blind twit all the time? hehehe that baldy bonce of yours
getting
a bit red now around the gills is it?? lol gud! his ears are going
all...
pink! :)))
So you are comparing children with brains which do not grow into
mature human brains until they are in late teens with adults who have
mature brains and who have become corrupted by greed for money or
power? *That* sort of corruption?
You are comparing apples with oranges. You can't possible think that
it is possible to rationally compare a child, with it's half formed
brain, with an adult? Really?
And speaking of those "completely corrupted adults that raise them",
are ^you^ one of those? Whether or not you have had children, are you
one of those completely corrupted adults? If not, slider, please tell
me how you escaped what you describe as the almost universal
corruption of adults? Or are you also completely corrupted?
If we and everyone else are all "completely corrupted adults", then
people like you who are not so corrupted must be rarer than hens'
teeth. Rarer than unicorn shit.
lost now of course...
What morose bullshit you talk.
### - you really think the likes of old trumpy could ever return to
'his'
youthful + lost innocence by now?? riiiiight... he's lost alright! well
fucked!
not a chance in... hell! (heh)
What innocence? Who's innocent? We're predators evolved from a long
line of predators and at the moment we're the apex predator. All
things bow before us as a species. Doesn't sound like innocence to me
:)
Try this. Open that bottle of reality and take a half teaspoon. Swill
around your mouth. Drink slowly with eyes half closed. Wait for the
hit...
(they don't know it's "evil" 'coz it's all they know/were ever shown
to
know, so never had a hope, all involved/steeped in playing some crazy
mad
game for keeps, all makes pure sense to 'em too, it all adds-up for
'em
see? and perforce they're all completely insane...)
Jeez...
### - well you're almost as badly off AS them!? (fortunately for you
though, you've been chatting/hob-knobbing with yours truly for the last
few years heh and thus i've been able to gradually drag your lazy fat
arse
up a couple or 3 levels in the meantime till you're now 'almost' (but
still not quite heh) nearly... sane?!
you may or may not yet get out! but currently you're still 'in' the hell
whereof i speak! ;)
You don't know me or anything about me but for what I write here.
Pots
shouldn't call kettles black either.
You basically don't know the
fuck what you're prattling on about.
I can't believe you've ever had
a long term relationship or children in your life because there is no
way, no way at all, any woman outside of a kept woman or woman of the
night, would put up with the shit you come out with or your
self-delusions. Nor would children allow you to get away with this
crap. They would say to you that you're full of shit and an
embarrassment to them and please, please - don't be the crazy man when
our friends are over. Please shave, cut your hair, wash your clothes,
and don't talk crazy...:)
quite a lot of wallyworld actually sucks that way? an amusement
theme-park
out front; a slaughterhouse behind the scenes... not exactly what
you'd
call the best possible of all worlds then huh...
Well it's better than the secluded make-believe world you inhabit, cut
off from reality and living on the charity of other folk instead of
your own efforts.
### - you're the one's who's "cut-off" from reality thang (the 'real'
reality i mean, not some delusional + grandiose pipe-dream of material
'success' you indulge in + elevate yourself in your own eyes via; you
vain
fuck! hah!)
You sound envious.
Chris has the idea when he says, and more than
once, that "blessed is the child who has no debt". That's my major accomplishment pal, I owe nobody. Period. Zilch. Everything I own
is owned fully. No bank can foreclose my house, or take my cars, and
my money is ...my money. I can live independently for as long as I
like. What's vain about that? I did it the hard way, as a kid from a
broken home and working class background who self-taught, paid my way
through uni, worked to the top of my profession in this city, did it
all with my own hands. Never borrowed one fucking cent off my father
or anyone else except for the banks and they've been off my back now
since the late 1990's.
It's all cold hard fact. No delusion, no illusion, no grandiosity, no
pipe dreams, no alcoholic stupor, no drugs (except dope), just cold
hard fact.
And you, sucker living in a state of parasitic welfare, pretend to
laugh at me? Lol. Wakey wakey...
and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks
heh...
We? You don't speak for me Slider, never have, never will.
### - smile; it's a common enough joke-saying from childhood you
pedantic
ninny! :)
you really should try to cease being such a 'seri-arse' all the time?
and
then lol ya might even be able to tune into the occasional 'jokes'
people
make?? :)
You don't have a sense of humour. You're too thin skinned. You're
almost as bad as David Jerome and he is definitely thin skinned. My
serious attitude is necessary in this world as you will soon see when
the Iranians stop their oil flow and the price of living starts to
rise in cities such as London.
I know people like you. Your type are all "hail fellow well met" on
the surface but underneath your type is a seething mass of hatred and jealousy.
It doesn't take a lot to sting you and when stung, you
react accordingly, all superficialities dropped and the real person
revealed. The slider exposed. Otherwise, mate, I wouldn't talk to
you like this. I would treat you with more respect and probably be
On Wed, 09 May 2018 12:08:42 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 01:44:41 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:42:25 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2018 01:39:10 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied, >>>>>> since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from
reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
There is no hell, don't you know that Slider?
### - oh there's a hell alright thang; a living one! ;)
Yep, and generally for those who make it so. You could be a lot more
cheerful Slider, more positive, more optimistic. *That* attitude in
the face of adversity is admirable. To let life get you down is not
admirable. You seem to me, and I could be wrong, to have let life
generally smite you almost in the biblical manner. You seem negative,
pessimistic and without hope. That doesn't take courage and if that's
your hell, it's purely of your own making.
### - am talking about/discussing current affairs 'generally' as being a >'third' party subject, and you wanna make everything all about... me?? :)))
fuck off with that crap! and please try to remain more 'objective' in
future instead of always only attempting to make everything so personal
(am NOT gonna be drawn-in so ya might as well forget it...)
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real to >>>>> 'em!
You really believe all that shit about hell, is that utterly real to
you?
### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!
and hence the problem!
No idea what the fuck you're talking about. Who is "them"?
### - the same 'them' as originally referred to above; can't ya keep a
basic concept in mind without being/getting all confused all the time??
Can you
be for once specific? Name names, groups, tribes, cultures, peoples,
nations, races. Give me some fucking FACTS instead of your insane
nonsense.
### - i try to, all the time, but you can't ever seem to keep up, perhaps >because you're incapable of remaining objective and instead take
absolutely everything as being somehow personal: iow: me me me me me me
me! (meaning: you you you you you!) heh...
Very few people really believe in hell slider. Surely you know that?
If they really believed in hell, I mean *really* believed, there would
be very little greed, corruption, sloth, envy, murder and the
remainder of the 10 deadlies. Therefore, anyone who talks about hell
is generally only giving lip service to the outdated, fictional
notion.
### - and anyone who talks the way 'you' do is continually talking out of >their arsehole apparently lol (clue: 'hell' isn't literal and is only a
way of talking about things, duh... a poetic reference...
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope? >>>>>
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a
time...
How do you know they were perfect? Genetic predisposition to whatever >>>> you're complaining about, perhaps? Isn't that an imperfection?
### - they're as-perfect as children are perfect, no more no less...
So, let's look at an anancephalic child. Born without most of the
brain. Is that perfect? A Downs Syndrome child. A child born with
one of the many thousands of possible significant genetic mis-codings.
A child born with a personality defect, say schizoid personality
disorder.
### - and you're taking it all completely out of context and thus away
from what i was actually saying/suggesting generally, and turning it into
something i *wasn't* saying/suggesting? (you really 'should' make an
effort to understand what people are 'actually' saying instead of blaming >them when you fail to grasp really quite simple subjects & contexts
involving metaphors; i know it's difficult for you but you really should
at least make the effort or people are just gonna end up thinking you're >stupid heh... and you really 'do' sound stupid sometimes hehehe, like now
for instance lol)
As perfect as they are perfect, slider? Do you see what nonsense you
spout? Will you ever learn?
### - will you?? (i doubt it when you can't even handle simple contexts & >subjects without continually needing everything 'explained' &
'spelled-out' to you like one of the kids i mention above hehehe... :)
There is no such thing as perfection Slider, just learn a bit of
cosmology, if the biggest picture you can imagine was perfect, there
would be no left over asteroids, comets, detritus etc from planetary
formation would there? Nothing is in balance, all is chaos, get used
to it.
### - sigh, think of the way children are still perfect as compared to
almost the completely corrupted adults that raise them, and then you'll
be
able to approximate the context/metaphor in which all the above was
actually + originally said? duh! (if the penny's finally dropped, heh,
then you'll likely feel a little embarrassed by now for being such an
obvious blind twit all the time? hehehe that baldy bonce of yours
getting
a bit red now around the gills is it?? lol gud! his ears are going
all...
pink! :)))
So you are comparing children with brains which do not grow into
mature human brains until they are in late teens with adults who have
mature brains and who have become corrupted by greed for money or
power? *That* sort of corruption?
### - am simply referring to the naive innocence of children as compared
to that of adults who've lost that same innocence, and which, by
comparison, is almost completely corrupt... and you wanna talk about kids >with damaged brains??? STICK TO THE SUBJECT ALREADY!!! lol!)
You are comparing apples with oranges. You can't possible think that
it is possible to rationally compare a child, with it's half formed
brain, with an adult? Really?
### - for all their so-developed brains most adults are cunts; having lost >their innocence they've also almost completely lost their humanity too in
the process; what's so difficult to understand about that?? (unless you're
as thick as shit that is hehehe...) :)
And speaking of those "completely corrupted adults that raise them",
are ^you^ one of those? Whether or not you have had children, are you
one of those completely corrupted adults? If not, slider, please tell
me how you escaped what you describe as the almost universal
corruption of adults? Or are you also completely corrupted?
### - the world (and humanity) being the fucked up way it is said >'corruption' is unavoidable, one's humanity WILL be compromised! but that >doesn't absolutely mean that a goodly proportion of that lost humanity
(and innocence) can't be regained to some reasonable & effective degree...
If we and everyone else are all "completely corrupted adults", then
people like you who are not so corrupted must be rarer than hens'
teeth. Rarer than unicorn shit.
### - that's RIGHT! for once you've got it right! incredibly RARE! almost >doesn't ever happen! but only because they (people) don't receive the
correct education! (iow: the education they 'do' receive' is what actually >fucks them up till they're no more than mumbling idiots talking endlessly >about themselves all the time! (kinda like you do hehehe...)
lost now of course...
What morose bullshit you talk.
### - you really think the likes of old trumpy could ever return to
'his'
youthful + lost innocence by now?? riiiiight... he's lost alright! well
fucked!
not a chance in... hell! (heh)
What innocence? Who's innocent? We're predators evolved from a long
line of predators and at the moment we're the apex predator. All
things bow before us as a species. Doesn't sound like innocence to me
:)
### - not until ya examine the state of the planet and all the shit peeps >have done to it in their process of being sooo fucking clever that they
can't HELP but fuck everything up?? (starts off as all being perfectly >innocent enough and then just look what they (you) turn into! mostly total >cunts! heh...)
Try this. Open that bottle of reality and take a half teaspoon. Swill
around your mouth. Drink slowly with eyes half closed. Wait for the
hit...
### - and then LOL cram it up your arse! 'coz you don't half talk a load
of shit sometimes thang LOL!
(they don't know it's "evil" 'coz it's all they know/were ever shown >>>>> to
know, so never had a hope, all involved/steeped in playing some crazy >>>>> mad
game for keeps, all makes pure sense to 'em too, it all adds-up for
'em
see? and perforce they're all completely insane...)
Jeez...
### - well you're almost as badly off AS them!? (fortunately for you
though, you've been chatting/hob-knobbing with yours truly for the last
few years heh and thus i've been able to gradually drag your lazy fat
arse
up a couple or 3 levels in the meantime till you're now 'almost' (but
still not quite heh) nearly... sane?!
you may or may not yet get out! but currently you're still 'in' the hell >>> whereof i speak! ;)
You don't know me or anything about me but for what I write here.
### - i 'know' you're an arsehole, isn't that enough?? (laffing...)
Pots
shouldn't call kettles black either.
### - precisely what i've been saying to YOU all along??
You basically don't know the
fuck what you're prattling on about.
### - and even if i did YOU wouldn't be ABLE to understand it anyway!
isn't that right??
I can't believe you've ever had
a long term relationship or children in your life because there is no
way, no way at all, any woman outside of a kept woman or woman of the
night, would put up with the shit you come out with or your
self-delusions. Nor would children allow you to get away with this
crap. They would say to you that you're full of shit and an
embarrassment to them and please, please - don't be the crazy man when
our friends are over. Please shave, cut your hair, wash your clothes,
and don't talk crazy...:)
### - have never really 'fitted-in' that's true enough... 'conformity' was >never my thing and have lived a very different (almost alternate) life to >most peeps because of it... it's what makes me an outsider heh ;)
quite a lot of wallyworld actually sucks that way? an amusement
theme-park
out front; a slaughterhouse behind the scenes... not exactly what
you'd
call the best possible of all worlds then huh...
Well it's better than the secluded make-believe world you inhabit, cut
On Wed, 09 May 2018 14:47:00 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2018 12:08:42 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 01:44:41 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:42:25 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2018 01:39:10 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied, >>>>>>> since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from
reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
There is no hell, don't you know that Slider?
### - oh there's a hell alright thang; a living one! ;)
Yep, and generally for those who make it so. You could be a lot more
cheerful Slider, more positive, more optimistic. *That* attitude in
the face of adversity is admirable. To let life get you down is not
admirable. You seem to me, and I could be wrong, to have let life
generally smite you almost in the biblical manner. You seem negative,
pessimistic and without hope. That doesn't take courage and if that's
your hell, it's purely of your own making.
### - am talking about/discussing current affairs 'generally' as being a
'third' party subject, and you wanna make everything all about... me??
:)))
No you're not. You're dissing the entire human race as usual, except
for yourself. You're dissing them so badly that you are slavering and drooling for a huge war to wipe us all out - except yourself.
Why wouldn't I talk about you and your pathology?
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real >>>>>> to
'em!
You really believe all that shit about hell, is that utterly real to >>>>> you?
### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!
and hence the problem!
No idea what the fuck you're talking about. Who is "them"?
### - the same 'them' as originally referred to above; can't ya keep a
basic concept in mind without being/getting all confused all the time??
Can you
be for once specific? Name names, groups, tribes, cultures, peoples,
nations, races. Give me some fucking FACTS instead of your insane
nonsense.
### - i try to, all the time, but you can't ever seem to keep up,
perhaps
because you're incapable of remaining objective and instead take
absolutely everything as being somehow personal: iow: me me me me me me
me! (meaning: you you you you you!) heh...
So don't "try". Do. Name groups, tribes, cultures, peoples, nations
races, who comprise "them". Perhaps it's CEOs of companies, members
of parliament, presidents, school principals, police sergeants,
accountants, lawyers - who is the "them" you're talking about and what characteristics place these classes of people in the category of
"then"?
Just one, answer the fucking question :)
Very few people really believe in hell slider. Surely you know that?
If they really believed in hell, I mean *really* believed, there would
be very little greed, corruption, sloth, envy, murder and the
remainder of the 10 deadlies. Therefore, anyone who talks about hell
is generally only giving lip service to the outdated, fictional
notion.
### - and anyone who talks the way 'you' do is continually talking out
of
their arsehole apparently lol (clue: 'hell' isn't literal and is only a
way of talking about things, duh... a poetic reference...
So explain what you mean then. You wouldn't get away with this
bullshit style of obfuscation in real life (have you ever done any adjudicated debating in high school slider?) so why should you get
away with it here?
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope? >>>>>>
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a
time...
How do you know they were perfect? Genetic predisposition to
whatever
you're complaining about, perhaps? Isn't that an imperfection?
### - they're as-perfect as children are perfect, no more no less...
So, let's look at an anancephalic child. Born without most of the
brain. Is that perfect? A Downs Syndrome child. A child born with
one of the many thousands of possible significant genetic mis-codings.
A child born with a personality defect, say schizoid personality
disorder.
### - and you're taking it all completely out of context and thus away
from what i was actually saying/suggesting generally, and turning it
into
something i *wasn't* saying/suggesting? (you really 'should' make an
effort to understand what people are 'actually' saying instead of
blaming
them when you fail to grasp really quite simple subjects & contexts
involving metaphors; i know it's difficult for you but you really should
at least make the effort or people are just gonna end up thinking you're
stupid heh... and you really 'do' sound stupid sometimes hehehe, like
now
for instance lol)
As perfect as they are perfect, slider? Do you see what nonsense you
spout? Will you ever learn?
### - will you?? (i doubt it when you can't even handle simple contexts
&
subjects without continually needing everything 'explained' &
'spelled-out' to you like one of the kids i mention above hehehe... :)
I don't "need" anything from you or anyone really slider. You
overestimate yourself.
There is no such thing as perfection Slider, just learn a bit of
cosmology, if the biggest picture you can imagine was perfect, there >>>>> would be no left over asteroids, comets, detritus etc from planetary >>>>> formation would there? Nothing is in balance, all is chaos, get used >>>>> to it.
### - sigh, think of the way children are still perfect as compared to >>>> almost the completely corrupted adults that raise them, and then
you'll
be
able to approximate the context/metaphor in which all the above was
actually + originally said? duh! (if the penny's finally dropped, heh, >>>> then you'll likely feel a little embarrassed by now for being such an
obvious blind twit all the time? hehehe that baldy bonce of yours
getting
a bit red now around the gills is it?? lol gud! his ears are going
all...
pink! :)))
So you are comparing children with brains which do not grow into
mature human brains until they are in late teens with adults who have
mature brains and who have become corrupted by greed for money or
power? *That* sort of corruption?
### - am simply referring to the naive innocence of children as compared
to that of adults who've lost that same innocence, and which, by
comparison, is almost completely corrupt... and you wanna talk about
kids
with damaged brains??? STICK TO THE SUBJECT ALREADY!!! lol!)
If I can find one exception to your generalisation or rule, then your generalisation or rule is proven to be invalid. Simple as that. Your blindness is staggering.
Think of the innocence of those two kids Venables and Thompson, in
your country. There's an exception and therefore, your rule is
invalidated.
You are comparing apples with oranges. You can't possible think that
it is possible to rationally compare a child, with it's half formed
brain, with an adult? Really?
### - for all their so-developed brains most adults are cunts; having
lost
their innocence they've also almost completely lost their humanity too
in
the process; what's so difficult to understand about that?? (unless
you're
as thick as shit that is hehehe...) :)
They never were innocent. You clearly have never had children.
The
younger the child, the more psychopathic the personality. In the
first critical years, a baby thinks only of itself. It's mother could
die yet it would only think of its needs, food, comfort, warmth and so
on. As psychopathic as you can imagine.
Adolescents are the most imperfect form of human imaginable, sloppy, loathsome tempered, secretive, duplicitous - ask any mother. It's
when they develop into adults, and all those hormonal changes and so
on are in the past, that they develop the moral mind, ethical thought processes and so on which accompany most of them through life until
they die. The very few who go bad do so usually because of
environmental effects in their early childhood, poverty, sexual abuse,
broken marriages and so on.
So you see, through your inexperience with children, you have arrived
at a conclusion which is contrary to the facts. Children are rarerly
perfect beings (outside of looks which is very superficial) - they
become much better beings as they grow older.
And speaking of those "completely corrupted adults that raise them",
are ^you^ one of those? Whether or not you have had children, are you
one of those completely corrupted adults? If not, slider, please tell
me how you escaped what you describe as the almost universal
corruption of adults? Or are you also completely corrupted?
### - the world (and humanity) being the fucked up way it is said
'corruption' is unavoidable, one's humanity WILL be compromised! but
that
doesn't absolutely mean that a goodly proportion of that lost humanity
(and innocence) can't be regained to some reasonable & effective
degree...
How? By the nuclear war (cleansing) you so avidly await?
If we and everyone else are all "completely corrupted adults", then
people like you who are not so corrupted must be rarer than hens'
teeth. Rarer than unicorn shit.
### - that's RIGHT! for once you've got it right! incredibly RARE!
almost
doesn't ever happen! but only because they (people) don't receive the
correct education! (iow: the education they 'do' receive' is what
actually
fucks them up till they're no more than mumbling idiots talking
endlessly
about themselves all the time! (kinda like you do hehehe...)
And the one time you agree with me is the one time I use sarcasm -
which you fail to identify as such.
How ironic.
lost now of course...
What morose bullshit you talk.
### - you really think the likes of old trumpy could ever return to
'his'
youthful + lost innocence by now?? riiiiight... he's lost alright!
well
fucked!
not a chance in... hell! (heh)
What innocence? Who's innocent? We're predators evolved from a long
line of predators and at the moment we're the apex predator. All
things bow before us as a species. Doesn't sound like innocence to me
:)
### - not until ya examine the state of the planet and all the shit
peeps
have done to it in their process of being sooo fucking clever that they
can't HELP but fuck everything up?? (starts off as all being perfectly
innocent enough and then just look what they (you) turn into! mostly
total
cunts! heh...)
But we're predators Slider. You can take the predator out of the
jungle but can't take the jungle out of the predator.
That's why we
I would go for days without food and needed to swipe milk or bread
from home deliveries left on doorsteps, that sort of thing. I guess
if I did that in your country 150 years ago I would have been hung,
the British were always good at killing children who stole food to
survive.
And you, sucker living in a state of parasitic welfare, pretend to
laugh at me? Lol. Wakey wakey...
### - material possessions ain't everything ya know? (well, they are to
YOU 'coz you don't have anything else??) + any cunt can be a robber! not
everyone can easily end up being a decent human being though heh ;)
In the West they are essential. You need to become debt free and have
some assets because with the former and without the latter you are at
the complete mercy of the state and corporates. I got my shit by
honest labour not by robbing pal,
hard work and study and politics and
perhaps you once attempted that as well but gave up for some reason. I consider my assets to be a buffer between independence and slavery. I
would rather be dead than be a slave.
Some would say that you are a slave to the state because what if
Brexit goes belly up, and your state goes broke? Will they still pay welfare?
and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks >>>>>> heh...
We? You don't speak for me Slider, never have, never will.
### - smile; it's a common enough joke-saying from childhood you
pedantic
ninny! :)
you really should try to cease being such a 'seri-arse' all the time?
and
then lol ya might even be able to tune into the occasional 'jokes'
people
make?? :)
You don't have a sense of humour. You're too thin skinned. You're
almost as bad as David Jerome and he is definitely thin skinned. My
serious attitude is necessary in this world as you will soon see when
the Iranians stop their oil flow and the price of living starts to
rise in cities such as London.
### - don't blame ME (or others) for YOUR lack of ability to comprehend,
you're the one with the mental (and emotional) handicap here, not moi!
(really laffing...) i.e., i can nearly 'always' understand what you're
saying but you can almost never quite understand moi in the same manner,
and that's MY fault?? you conceited prick! + lol @ such arrogance! :)
you're like a child! you can't understand so you piss & moan about the
faults of others merely as a means to 'deflect' - ffs grow up! we're not
in the schoolyard now!? (well, maybe you still are, but i'm definitely
not
hehehe...)
No just you mate, just you. You're always trolling about Iran, Syria,
North Korea, WW3, nuclear weapons, wally world, the degeneracy of our species, the environment and so on - but never, ever anything positive
about anything.
That is highly abnormal. It's not pissing and
moaning I do about "faults of others", it's usually just about you
because you don't see any good in anyone, ever, unless they're iconic
figures such as Mandela or Gandhi who are forever out of reach of
common persons such as you and I.
What about the people in London who help the poor, the drug ravaged
and the homeless? Like St Vincent de Paul, the Salvo's, the Red Cross
and countless others? You can walk into London from your flat and
encounter good deeds everywhere if you just look. Not everyone is the
way you paint them. I criticise your attitude because it's so fucking
boring and grey and dismal that it begs to be criticised. That's a
fault, but it's a fault of yours, not of others.
Don't you have any relatives or friends you consider to be really good
people who you can discuss here, like Dave does with his son and his
son's friends and their movie making? I'm not like you, always greay, overcast, despondent and critical of everyone except one's self.
Surely you don't dispute this?
I know people like you. Your type are all "hail fellow well met" on
the surface but underneath your type is a seething mass of hatred and
jealousy.
### - heh, you're making the 'mistake' (again!) of 'projecting' yourself
onto others... i.e., lol you're merely describing yourself and don't
realise it!
you DON'T know people like me thang; you ONLY know people like...
yourself!
because you are ALL of the above! :)
Well yeah, I guess you've got me all worked out :)
I do admit to a bit of chagrin at peoples' stupidity and the venality
of politicians, CEOs and so on in general.
But there is a lot of good
in people too, and in the race overall, and I always excuse our
species' behaviour on the basis that we evolved as predators and it is
going to take more than a few thousand years for our atavistic
behaviour to be controlled.
It doesn't take a lot to sting you and when stung, you
react accordingly, all superficialities dropped and the real person
revealed. The slider exposed. Otherwise, mate, I wouldn't talk to
you like this. I would treat you with more respect and probably be
friendlier to you but that won't happen because underneath it all,
you're really not a very nice person.
### - in truth you dunno WTF you're talking about and so you waffle-on
like an idiot hoping to deflect from the real subject here: your own
stupidity & denseness! (try making an 'effort' to understand you prick
instead of just blaming everyone else for 'your' own inadequacies!
heh...
YOU don't understand something so THEY must be wrong?? fuck off!)
No, you mean I don't agree with you therefore everything I say, in disagreement, must be wrong. Were I to agree with you I would be ok, probably the world's greatest genius. You are just being extremely egocentric but that's understandable too, I guess, living alone as you
do.
Probably the best representation of our species here is Chris, who I
believe *is* a genuinely nice bloke who proverbially wouldn't hurt a
fly and does his best, often, to try to level out people such as me.
### - well you've certainly changed your tune then?? 'coz only very
recently you were calling him all the cunts under the sun until i
pointed
certain things out about him that you, apparently, singularly couldn't
read for yourself??
I got snarky about his evident refusal to throw words around but then
came to realise that it's just the way he is, not done on purpose. As
a person, I think you can see from the way he sometimes tries to
mediate that he's ok.
I also didn't like one single comment he made about his daughter,
being a cop, and her guns. I don't like cops. Never have, never
will. But it's not his fault that he has progeny who want to point
guns at people and turn keys on fellow humans.
Doesn't change my evaluation of him though.
I'm not a very nice person either slider but the difference between
you and I is that I know I'm not a very nice person, but you go on as
if you are. You're not.
### - aww so ya dont like it when the tables get turned on you huh? and
then we see your REAL colours don't we! riiiight...
No I'm regretful at a bad temper and things I've done over the years, sometimes to loved ones. I've nevertheless ended up with people who
love me warts and all though, probably because I admit I'm a prick
from time to time and I have the soul and heart to feel remorse.
Are you saying you're perfect? If so, why haven't you ended up with a
long term relationship with a partner, male or female? I know you
live alone so that didn't work out which means you're a cunt as well
but you don't have remorse or guilt or at least don't or can't express
same.
I've had tables turned on me plenty of times and while I don't like
it, I understand it. I know myself pretty well. Do you?
(hehehe you're very slooow to catch-on sometimes ya know? and then you >>>> jump in like you know what's going on and make an utter twat of
yourself
in the process?? hehehe it's a good job i like ya sport or i'd be
kicking
your bollocks up your dirtbox by now lol:)
lighten up dudearoo! :D
+ try looking before ya leap sometimes innit!
hehehehehe...
You only want me to agree with you. I won't and can't until you start
taking a good look at yourself and the reality of your situation.
### - learn some objectivity thang, or you just always gonna sound (and
look) like a gonzo lol (sooo slooow hehehe...)
Oh I'm objective slider, painfully so. Trained by good teachers.
Objective, pragmatic, whichever way you slice it. You, on the other
hand, are a dreamer in almost every way that matters. Your sense of
balance is all skewed.
I'm
so fucking sick if people being self deluded, it's prevalent in real
life and now it's all over usenet as well. You go from hot to cold
and back to hot again. You need to steer a steady course, make your
mind up and don't change it. Keep to the rudder mate.
### - you're the one who's deluded lol, and the one incapable of
steering
a straight course and so you accuse everyone else of same?? you're
projecting' and don't realise it! so how fucking 'aware' is that??
(hardly
any actually, truth is you're so far up your own arse ya can't tell the
difference between shit & shinola lol)
Yep old american saying I believe, you must have read it somewhere.
You usually accuse me of being inflexible which means that I don't
change course, but now you're saying that I'm incapable of steering a straight course, which means of course (!) that I'm actually flexible.
Make a view and stick with it.
I don't like flattery either, I don't need it and it's a waste of
time. Let's call a spade a shovel.
### - lol it's always you you you you YOU???
On Mon, 14 May 2018 04:51:39 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2018 14:47:00 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 09 May 2018 12:08:42 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 01:44:41 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:42:25 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2018 01:39:10 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
I understand that feeling, but no, they're really not to be pitied, >>>>>>>> since they're doing so much that's downright evil to so many.
### - think it's kinda sad is all; they're about as divorced from >>>>>>> reality
as it's possible to get?
the lowest level of dante's hell for example... (pitiful indeed)
There is no hell, don't you know that Slider?
### - oh there's a hell alright thang; a living one! ;)
Yep, and generally for those who make it so. You could be a lot more
cheerful Slider, more positive, more optimistic. *That* attitude in
the face of adversity is admirable. To let life get you down is not
admirable. You seem to me, and I could be wrong, to have let life
generally smite you almost in the biblical manner. You seem negative, >>>> pessimistic and without hope. That doesn't take courage and if that's
your hell, it's purely of your own making.
### - am talking about/discussing current affairs 'generally' as being a >>> 'third' party subject, and you wanna make everything all about... me??
:)))
No you're not. You're dissing the entire human race as usual, except
for yourself. You're dissing them so badly that you are slavering and
drooling for a huge war to wipe us all out - except yourself.
### - well they ARE a bit crap ain't they?
just look at the mess they've made of their planet for example??
i don't 'wish' 'em dead, i just can't see 'em surviving!
that it's pretty obvious what's coming!
thus i tend to agree with that harbinger i encountered that time: "am
amazed they've actually come this far??" (true actually...)
Why wouldn't I talk about you and your pathology?
### - you 'choose' to talk about 'anything' rather than the reality of our >situation?
blame me why don'tcha! deflect it all onto moi!
it makes ya 'feel' better (read: more comfortable) that-a-way!
denial is easier than facing reality for you is all...
you're scared! (and if you're not then you damn well should be!)
no one ever comes back from down there ya know...
they really 'believe' in all that shit down there; is utterly real >>>>>>> to
'em!
You really believe all that shit about hell, is that utterly real to >>>>>> you?
### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!
and hence the problem!
No idea what the fuck you're talking about. Who is "them"?
### - the same 'them' as originally referred to above; can't ya keep a
basic concept in mind without being/getting all confused all the time??
Can you
be for once specific? Name names, groups, tribes, cultures, peoples,
nations, races. Give me some fucking FACTS instead of your insane
nonsense.
### - i try to, all the time, but you can't ever seem to keep up,
perhaps
because you're incapable of remaining objective and instead take
absolutely everything as being somehow personal: iow: me me me me me me
me! (meaning: you you you you you!) heh...
So don't "try". Do. Name groups, tribes, cultures, peoples, nations
races, who comprise "them". Perhaps it's CEOs of companies, members
of parliament, presidents, school principals, police sergeants,
accountants, lawyers - who is the "them" you're talking about and what
characteristics place these classes of people in the category of
"then"?
Just one, answer the fucking question :)
### - 99% of the population has it's head jammed up it ass and you want me
to single someone out??
ok i will then: you! :)))
Very few people really believe in hell slider. Surely you know that?
If they really believed in hell, I mean *really* believed, there would >>>> be very little greed, corruption, sloth, envy, murder and the
remainder of the 10 deadlies. Therefore, anyone who talks about hell
is generally only giving lip service to the outdated, fictional
notion.
### - and anyone who talks the way 'you' do is continually talking out
of
their arsehole apparently lol (clue: 'hell' isn't literal and is only a
way of talking about things, duh... a poetic reference...
So explain what you mean then. You wouldn't get away with this
bullshit style of obfuscation in real life (have you ever done any
adjudicated debating in high school slider?) so why should you get
away with it here?
### - i bet everyone (and anyone) else, except you, knows exactly what >someone means by something being 'hell' for christsakes?? a living hell!
or people being/feeling in-hell over (or about) something? (we're not
talking about an 'actual hell here ya dingbat hehehe; don't take
everything so literally! :)
no getting through to 'em either! dogs in the street have more hope? >>>>>>>
and were all someone's beautiful, perfect little kids once upon a >>>>>>> time...
How do you know they were perfect? Genetic predisposition to
whatever
you're complaining about, perhaps? Isn't that an imperfection?
### - they're as-perfect as children are perfect, no more no less...
So, let's look at an anancephalic child. Born without most of the
brain. Is that perfect? A Downs Syndrome child. A child born with
one of the many thousands of possible significant genetic mis-codings. >>>> A child born with a personality defect, say schizoid personality
disorder.
### - and you're taking it all completely out of context and thus away
from what i was actually saying/suggesting generally, and turning it
into
something i *wasn't* saying/suggesting? (you really 'should' make an
effort to understand what people are 'actually' saying instead of
blaming
them when you fail to grasp really quite simple subjects & contexts
involving metaphors; i know it's difficult for you but you really should >>> at least make the effort or people are just gonna end up thinking you're >>> stupid heh... and you really 'do' sound stupid sometimes hehehe, like
now
for instance lol)
As perfect as they are perfect, slider? Do you see what nonsense you
spout? Will you ever learn?
### - will you?? (i doubt it when you can't even handle simple contexts
&
subjects without continually needing everything 'explained' &
'spelled-out' to you like one of the kids i mention above hehehe... :)
I don't "need" anything from you or anyone really slider. You
overestimate yourself.
### - you don't need money heh, money's easy to get and you've certainly >proved that...
for want of a better description; it's 'soul' you lack hehehe...
or rather: access to it? (have provided the access: read it/use it! deepen >your mind)
There is no such thing as perfection Slider, just learn a bit of
cosmology, if the biggest picture you can imagine was perfect, there >>>>>> would be no left over asteroids, comets, detritus etc from planetary >>>>>> formation would there? Nothing is in balance, all is chaos, get used >>>>>> to it.
### - sigh, think of the way children are still perfect as compared to >>>>> almost the completely corrupted adults that raise them, and then
you'll
be
able to approximate the context/metaphor in which all the above was
actually + originally said? duh! (if the penny's finally dropped, heh, >>>>> then you'll likely feel a little embarrassed by now for being such an >>>>> obvious blind twit all the time? hehehe that baldy bonce of yours
getting
a bit red now around the gills is it?? lol gud! his ears are going
all...
pink! :)))
So you are comparing children with brains which do not grow into
mature human brains until they are in late teens with adults who have
mature brains and who have become corrupted by greed for money or
power? *That* sort of corruption?
### - am simply referring to the naive innocence of children as compared >>> to that of adults who've lost that same innocence, and which, by
comparison, is almost completely corrupt... and you wanna talk about
kids
with damaged brains??? STICK TO THE SUBJECT ALREADY!!! lol!)
If I can find one exception to your generalisation or rule, then your
generalisation or rule is proven to be invalid. Simple as that. Your
blindness is staggering.
Think of the innocence of those two kids Venables and Thompson, in
your country. There's an exception and therefore, your rule is
invalidated.
### - poor/bad example? those 2 poor 10-year old kids were/are the direct >result of their neglected upbringing... left almost completely to their
own devises they did what kids do, only a bit more...
i.e., cruelty in children is renown; from pulling the legs off of spiders
to blowing the heads off ostriches with shotguns because it's
funny/amusing to see 'em still running for a few paces, to smashing
someone's face in and putting them in hospital because THAT >satisfied/justified your own personally fucked feelings at the time??
(cont...)
I would go for days without food and needed to swipe milk or bread
from home deliveries left on doorsteps, that sort of thing. I guess
if I did that in your country 150 years ago I would have been hung,
the British were always good at killing children who stole food to
survive.
### - i 'still' go for days without food, then & now!
and have stayed skinny ever since heh... :)
And you, sucker living in a state of parasitic welfare, pretend to
laugh at me? Lol. Wakey wakey...
### - material possessions ain't everything ya know? (well, they are to
YOU 'coz you don't have anything else??) + any cunt can be a robber! not >>> everyone can easily end up being a decent human being though heh ;)
In the West they are essential. You need to become debt free and have
some assets because with the former and without the latter you are at
the complete mercy of the state and corporates. I got my shit by
honest labour not by robbing pal,
### - i call that 'legal' robbery heh; you eat while others starve??
worse: you don't give 2-shits about it!
imho you're one of those robber-barons hehehe...
"how does it feeeel" :)
hard work and study and politics and
perhaps you once attempted that as well but gave up for some reason. I
consider my assets to be a buffer between independence and slavery. I
would rather be dead than be a slave.
### - i dropped outta' the whole deal heh, and then also dropped outta the >work ethic as well when i saw what THAT was all about too!: pure slavery! >that and becoming a robot! no thanks :)
Some would say that you are a slave to the state because what if
Brexit goes belly up, and your state goes broke? Will they still pay
welfare?
### - have always found a way to get by...
near miracles have even occurred in that respect heh ;)
and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks >>>>>>> heh...
We? You don't speak for me Slider, never have, never will.
### - smile; it's a common enough joke-saying from childhood you
pedantic
ninny! :)
you really should try to cease being such a 'seri-arse' all the time? >>>>> and
then lol ya might even be able to tune into the occasional 'jokes'
people
make?? :)
You don't have a sense of humour. You're too thin skinned. You're
almost as bad as David Jerome and he is definitely thin skinned. My
serious attitude is necessary in this world as you will soon see when
the Iranians stop their oil flow and the price of living starts to
rise in cities such as London.
### - don't blame ME (or others) for YOUR lack of ability to comprehend, >>> you're the one with the mental (and emotional) handicap here, not moi!
(really laffing...) i.e., i can nearly 'always' understand what you're
saying but you can almost never quite understand moi in the same manner, >>> and that's MY fault?? you conceited prick! + lol @ such arrogance! :)
you're like a child! you can't understand so you piss & moan about the
faults of others merely as a means to 'deflect' - ffs grow up! we're not >>> in the schoolyard now!? (well, maybe you still are, but i'm definitely
not
hehehe...)
No just you mate, just you. You're always trolling about Iran, Syria,
North Korea, WW3, nuclear weapons, wally world, the degeneracy of our
species, the environment and so on - but never, ever anything positive
about anything.
### - said this to you only very recently too but you never catch on: the >'positive' things don't NEED mentioning? (am perfectly aware of them
though, although what you'd call 'good' and i'd call good are prolly 2
very different things mate... possibly even worlds apart...)
That is highly abnormal. It's not pissing and
moaning I do about "faults of others", it's usually just about you
because you don't see any good in anyone, ever, unless they're iconic
figures such as Mandela or Gandhi who are forever out of reach of
common persons such as you and I.
### - yeah yeah, last week it was chis, and then jeremy? and of couse moi
too hehehe...
'coz let's face it; no ONE has done better than you innit mr moneybags!
(lol riiiight...)
What about the people in London who help the poor, the drug ravaged
and the homeless? Like St Vincent de Paul, the Salvo's, the Red Cross
and countless others? You can walk into London from your flat and
encounter good deeds everywhere if you just look. Not everyone is the
way you paint them. I criticise your attitude because it's so fucking
boring and grey and dismal that it begs to be criticised. That's a
fault, but it's a fault of yours, not of others.
### - actually am always standing up for them thang? and yes i bemoan
their plight because i see it! live with them! have always seen it AND the >goodness that appears only in the poor?
Don't you have any relatives or friends you consider to be really good
people who you can discuss here, like Dave does with his son and his
son's friends and their movie making? I'm not like you, always greay,
overcast, despondent and critical of everyone except one's self.
Surely you don't dispute this?
### - perhaps if we spent some 'actual' time together you'd read me a lot >better than just your 'idea' of me?
(you gots tons of money; why not hop on a plane to the uk and i'll show
ya's around some? + you'll likely see then that am prolly not at all like
you wanna think/imagine... plus that's a serious offer btw...)
I know people like you. Your type are all "hail fellow well met" on
the surface but underneath your type is a seething mass of hatred and
jealousy.
### - heh, you're making the 'mistake' (again!) of 'projecting' yourself >>> onto others... i.e., lol you're merely describing yourself and don't
realise it!
you DON'T know people like me thang; you ONLY know people like...
yourself!
because you are ALL of the above! :)
Well yeah, I guess you've got me all worked out :)
### - i have a bit, haven't i hehehe :D
I do admit to a bit of chagrin at peoples' stupidity and the venality
of politicians, CEOs and so on in general.
### - a bit?? g'wan! :D
But there is a lot of good
in people too, and in the race overall, and I always excuse our
species' behaviour on the basis that we evolved as predators and it is
going to take more than a few thousand years for our atavistic
behaviour to be controlled.
### - hard to explain/communicate. but most peeps appear to be covered in
mud from my pov heh...
born in shite, grew up in (and on) shite, and still smell strongly of it
too lol
hence my favourite metaphor/story re buddha pointing to a pure white lotus >blooming 'above' the cesspit it has its fucking roots in? (go figure...) ;)
It doesn't take a lot to sting you and when stung, you
react accordingly, all superficialities dropped and the real person
revealed. The slider exposed. Otherwise, mate, I wouldn't talk to
you like this. I would treat you with more respect and probably be
friendlier to you but that won't happen because underneath it all,
you're really not a very nice person.
### - in truth you dunno WTF you're talking about and so you waffle-on
like an idiot hoping to deflect from the real subject here: your own
stupidity & denseness! (try making an 'effort' to understand you prick
instead of just blaming everyone else for 'your' own inadequacies!
heh...
YOU don't understand something so THEY must be wrong?? fuck off!)
No, you mean I don't agree with you therefore everything I say, in
disagreement, must be wrong. Were I to agree with you I would be ok,
probably the world's greatest genius. You are just being extremely
egocentric but that's understandable too, I guess, living alone as you
do.
### - well ok: you judge... but i still think we would do much better in
an actual face-to-face meeting as you're really not that stupid heh...
c'mon, i'll make it interesting for ya!
have a day-off from your routine mate! try something a bit... different?
i promise you'll be fine + we'll prolly end up as friends to boot! :)
Probably the best representation of our species here is Chris, who I
believe *is* a genuinely nice bloke who proverbially wouldn't hurt a
fly and does his best, often, to try to level out people such as me.
### - well you've certainly changed your tune then?? 'coz only very
recently you were calling him all the cunts under the sun until i
pointed
certain things out about him that you, apparently, singularly couldn't
read for yourself??
I got snarky about his evident refusal to throw words around but then
came to realise that it's just the way he is, not done on purpose. As
a person, I think you can see from the way he sometimes tries to
mediate that he's ok.
### - you 'tried' to belittle matey in the very same vein as you're
adopting with me but i put the block on it, and now you see him more like
he really/truly is (more so anyways) instead of your mere negative opinion
of him based, as it was, on poor information gathering heh...
I also didn't like one single comment he made about his daughter,
being a cop, and her guns. I don't like cops. Never have, never
will. But it's not his fault that he has progeny who want to point
guns at people and turn keys on fellow humans.
Doesn't change my evaluation of him though.
### - you merely misunderstood him at the time; he wasn't at all praising
the situation!
you just 'took' it that way because of some rigidly fixed ideas & >preconceptions of your own...
but then you always do that? (isn't that always how you got into trouble?)
I'm not a very nice person either slider but the difference between
you and I is that I know I'm not a very nice person, but you go on as
if you are. You're not.
### - aww so ya dont like it when the tables get turned on you huh? and
then we see your REAL colours don't we! riiiight...
No I'm regretful at a bad temper and things I've done over the years,
sometimes to loved ones. I've nevertheless ended up with people who
love me warts and all though, probably because I admit I'm a prick
from time to time and I have the soul and heart to feel remorse.
### - you can't help being insensitive thang, you were born that way, but
you CAN, however, recognise that being the case and quite consciously >work-around it?
e.g., that instead of just 'pouncing' (and then pounding) on peeps for
wrongs perceived in error, you could instead bide your time, ask >intelligent/probing questions, just to make sure, and then proceed >accordingly? NOT just immediately wading-in and clobbering people because
you think/feel it's justified! (i.e., it absolutely doesn't matter even if >you've got one leg shorter than the other, there's always an 'intelligent' >workaround?)
Are you saying you're perfect? If so, why haven't you ended up with a
long term relationship with a partner, male or female? I know you
live alone so that didn't work out which means you're a cunt as well
but you don't have remorse or guilt or at least don't or can't express
same.
### - no one's perfect lol, even saints weren't/aren't perfect!
no, it's not about perfection; it's about merely doing the best one can
under the circumstances!
and then, being able in years to come, to be 'able' to look back and
see/know that even if what you did at the time wasn't perfect it was still >honestly the 'best' you could possibly consciously have managed under the >circumstances AT the time! and then not only does one personally grow & >advance but ya also never feel too bad about whatever happens ;)
So don't "try". Do. Name groups, tribes, cultures, peoples, nations
races, who comprise "them". Perhaps it's CEOs of companies, members
of parliament, presidents, school principals, police sergeants,
accountants, lawyers - who is the "them" you're talking about and what
characteristics place these classes of people in the category of
"then"?
Just one, answer the fucking question :)
### - 99% of the population has it's head jammed up it ass and you want
me
to single someone out??
ok i will then: you! :)))
Now you're trying to obfuscate. You said above:
"### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!"
I then said:
"Who the fuck is THEM?"
Now, you say:
"ok I will then: you!"
Slider, you slippery obfuscator you. You are not making any sense. I suggest you think before typing/posting. You have somehow separated
the world into two camps - Camp No 1 -> Slider. Camp No 2 -> 7
billion other people.
That is symptomatic of some sort of major disorder. Don't you agree?
I think it used to be called alienation before psychology was invented
and specialists in that field were called alienists before they were
called psychologists. You are very definitely alienated.
Stop deluding yourself.
I don't "need" anything from you or anyone really slider. You
overestimate yourself.
### - you don't need money heh, money's easy to get and you've certainly
proved that...
You're a complete fuckwit. Money is easy to get? Why then don't you
have any?
Why are you parasiting off your government, a la other
people who WORK, and then complaining about how all those people who
pay for your lazy parasitic "life" live in hell and ignorance - while
you have all day every day to ruminate on dreams and cults and live in
envy of those who have things and people they love and who love them
in turn, unlike you and your stupid, senseless existence?
Money is hard to get? Try achieving a bachelor's degree in a
difficult subject like I have and Dave has, I believe. I did it by
night school and scholarship while holding down a permanent job in the
public service, working on weekends as a labourer in a brick yard,
raising two children and insisting my wife did not work but raise kids
- and she didn't work for 15 years, until my kids were old enough. Try
doing it really hard while studying, and try what I did which was do
the third year in a commerce degree full time while holding down a
full time job etc.
Then, worm your way into a regulatory job in government so you can
pick up the ropes and then leave after 12 years and join a major firm providing advice to business on the regulations one administered while
in the public service. Try working 70-80 hour weeks so you can move
up in housing from bungalow to two story, with larger mortgages. Work
so hard you can then pay off your final mortgage while you're still in
your early 40's.
And you say, you fucking fuckwit with no real knowledge of anything
useful, that "money's easy to get"?
Fuck you, simpleton. Emjoy your bitter and twisted loveless barren
"life" with all your wasted and missed opportunities. The "hell" you
so easily describe is the one you've made for yourself and the one
you, and only you, inhabit.
for want of a better description; it's 'soul' you lack hehehe...
You wouldn't know, not owning one yourself.
or rather: access to it? (have provided the access: read it/use it!
deepen
your mind)
Lol.
i.e., cruelty in children is renown; from pulling the legs off of
spiders
to blowing the heads off ostriches with shotguns because it's
funny/amusing to see 'em still running for a few paces, to smashing
someone's face in and putting them in hospital because THAT
satisfied/justified your own personally fucked feelings at the time??
Brian, because you're either not man enought to defend a vulnerable
female in your life or, more likely, you don't have any females in
your life, don't point your knobbly arthritic finger at me about what
I did when something very certainly needed to be done to defend a
young woman who was on the verge of being raped.
What sort of weak cunt are you mate? Over here, a man who defends a
woman and if necessary puts a potential rapist in hospital is lauded
and congratulated. I suspect the same in GB as well, bearing in mind
the extent of crime in London. Why are you so wimpish about stuff
like that? You got a pair haven't you?
On the other hand, if you're homosexual, I apologise for the comment
above about not having females in your life.
You are comparing apples with oranges. You can't possible think that >>>>> it is possible to rationally compare a child, with it's half formed
brain, with an adult? Really?
### - for all their so-developed brains most adults are cunts; having
lost
their innocence they've also almost completely lost their humanity too >>>> in
the process; what's so difficult to understand about that?? (unless
you're
as thick as shit that is hehehe...) :)
They never were innocent. You clearly have never had children.
### - already TOLD ya that i have? that have been there/done that and
that
it's now all behind me?
mahatma-slider i called myself as a joke in that regard? (the 'same'
joke
jeremy then leaped on to accuse me of having abandoned my family & kids,
remember?)
No I don't remember. Did you abandon your wife and kids? Or did they abandon you? Or, did you never have a family? Someone is a very
callous person.
kids are wide open to whatever they're exposed to! they become what
they're 'shown' to become and don't 'invent' ANY of it for themselves!
Didn't you abandon yours? Or they abandoned you? Or you didn't have
any? In any of these cases, how the royal FUCK would you know?
So you see, through your inexperience with children, you have arrived
at a conclusion which is contrary to the facts. Children are rarerly
perfect beings (outside of looks which is very superficial) - they
become much better beings as they grow older.
### - bollocks! the vast (apart from the drones) the vast majority of
them
become delinquent!
Holy fuck. You are so sick Brian, to think that. My god. Most kids
I know have never been delinquent. They develop into perfectly good
adults. What a twisted outlook on your own species you have.
and end up as politicians or bankers or summat really fuckin' dumb like
that LOL :)
Yep that's right, not only is it easy to make money, it takes someone
really dumb to make that easy money. You, on the other hand, living
on welfare and too fucking lazy or stupid to have ever worked for a
living, have never taken advantage of how easy it is to make that
money, nor have you taken a high paying job where you could actually
change the culture or make ethical decisions to help people because
you're not dumb enough to stoop to such depths.
You'd rather be on the dole.
And speaking of those "completely corrupted adults that raise them", >>>>> are ^you^ one of those? Whether or not you have had children, are
you
one of those completely corrupted adults? If not, slider, please
tell
me how you escaped what you describe as the almost universal
corruption of adults? Or are you also completely corrupted?
### - the world (and humanity) being the fucked up way it is said
'corruption' is unavoidable, one's humanity WILL be compromised! but
that
doesn't absolutely mean that a goodly proportion of that lost humanity >>>> (and innocence) can't be regained to some reasonable & effective
degree...
How? By the nuclear war (cleansing) you so avidly await?
### - more like: avidly 'anticipate' occurring old bean...
Nope. You hope for extinction so that you can have your revenge. In
the US, where guns are freely available, you might even have already
taken your revenge on humanity.
because THAT'S the way the world has been going for centuries!
Nope. The world and homo sapiens are two entirely different things.
and the world has been "going" now for around 5 thousand million
years.
that what they call 'progress' is actually a long slow steady decline in
their humanity at base!
Fucking A garbage. If we didn't have the tech to reduce infant
mortality, provide antibiotics, operate where necessary, you might not
be at your current old age. You might have died decades ago or even
at birth.
You are an ungrateful son of a bitch and I wonder who puts up with
your nonsense in the real world, if you ever get out of your council
flat that is.
How ironic.
### - yes how ironic! how ironic you joke about an ultimately serious
problem and yet don't realise just how wrong you are in taking it all as
being a joke?? ironic indeed!
Look, sooner or later our species will die off. Either through
supplanting by the next evolutionary step, some global geophysical or astronomical catastrophe, plague, or simple wearing out of our
chromosomes. But we won't do it by war or destroying the environment
- both we and life in general are too resilient.
Why worry? Get on with life. Oh I forgot, you don't have one - no interests, no companions, no family, no future, no fucking hope.
### - oh stfu about that lol! truth is you LIKE predator don'tcha!
Ever owned a cat? I've had scores of cats as pets, up to three at a
time. Yep, I like predators.
justifies ALL your shit??
I don't need justification. I'm usually correct.
the 'evolved' wont BE predators thang! won't have to be!
sapians are/were the predators! (we hunted & ate the thalls to
extinction
for example heh)
What's a thall?
That's why we
have incisor and canine teeth, to tear and rip meat. Otherwise we'd
have flat fucking herbivore teeth.
### - we 'actually' descended from vegetarians originally you gonzo LOL
:))))
all those flat teeth? (laffing)
We're omnivores. That means we eat what's going. Part of what's
going is meat on the hoof. Until we discovered fire, we ate that part
gots to truncate all this due to server's limitations heh...
So don't "try". Do. Name groups, tribes, cultures, peoples, nations
races, who comprise "them". Perhaps it's CEOs of companies, members
of parliament, presidents, school principals, police sergeants,
accountants, lawyers - who is the "them" you're talking about and what >>>> characteristics place these classes of people in the category of
"then"?
Just one, answer the fucking question :)
### - 99% of the population has it's head jammed up it ass and you want
me
to single someone out??
ok i will then: you! :)))
Now you're trying to obfuscate. You said above:
"### - it's not at ALL real to me... it's THEM it's utterly real to!"
I then said:
"Who the fuck is THEM?"
Now, you say:
"ok I will then: you!"
Slider, you slippery obfuscator you. You are not making any sense. I
suggest you think before typing/posting. You have somehow separated
the world into two camps - Camp No 1 -> Slider. Camp No 2 -> 7
billion other people.
That is symptomatic of some sort of major disorder. Don't you agree?
I think it used to be called alienation before psychology was invented
and specialists in that field were called alienists before they were
called psychologists. You are very definitely alienated.
### - you're still one of 'em aren't you?? well that's why i said 'you' - >you're almost the perfect example!
and as such you're actually 'part' of the force that's destroying this
whole world and you don't even realise it??
so how blind is that?? duh! :)
Stop deluding yourself.
### - it's you that's deluded heh; you believe all their bs!
worse! you defend it!
I don't "need" anything from you or anyone really slider. You
overestimate yourself.
### - you don't need money heh, money's easy to get and you've certainly >>> proved that...
You're a complete fuckwit. Money is easy to get? Why then don't you
have any?
### - simple choice pal heh... i 'choose' not to be wealthy!
i 'choose' to deal with 'reality'! to live with (and among) the majority
who are poor!
Why are you parasiting off your government, a la other
people who WORK, and then complaining about how all those people who
pay for your lazy parasitic "life" live in hell and ignorance - while
you have all day every day to ruminate on dreams and cults and live in
envy of those who have things and people they love and who love them
in turn, unlike you and your stupid, senseless existence?
### - it's only senseless to oafs/cavemen like you hehehe...
Money is hard to get? Try achieving a bachelor's degree in a
difficult subject like I have and Dave has, I believe. I did it by
night school and scholarship while holding down a permanent job in the
public service, working on weekends as a labourer in a brick yard,
raising two children and insisting my wife did not work but raise kids
- and she didn't work for 15 years, until my kids were old enough. Try
doing it really hard while studying, and try what I did which was do
the third year in a commerce degree full time while holding down a
full time job etc.
Then, worm your way into a regulatory job in government so you can
pick up the ropes and then leave after 12 years and join a major firm
providing advice to business on the regulations one administered while
in the public service. Try working 70-80 hour weeks so you can move
up in housing from bungalow to two story, with larger mortgages. Work
so hard you can then pay off your final mortgage while you're still in
your early 40's.
And you say, you fucking fuckwit with no real knowledge of anything
useful, that "money's easy to get"?
Fuck you, simpleton. Emjoy your bitter and twisted loveless barren
"life" with all your wasted and missed opportunities. The "hell" you
so easily describe is the one you've made for yourself and the one
you, and only you, inhabit.
### - heh, there's hardly 'anyone' out here sport! relatively unpopulated
i'd call it lol
wallyworld otoh is chockablock!
for want of a better description; it's 'soul' you lack hehehe...
You wouldn't know, not owning one yourself.
### - see? instead of asking intelligent questions you 'assume' you
already know everything??
well that's why you live in a prison and i don't heh :)
or rather: access to it? (have provided the access: read it/use it!
deepen
your mind)
Lol.
### - then continue living in denial and always thinking/imagining you're >right!
you wont be 'able' to discern any difference!
continue living in ignorance heh, see if i care :)
i.e., cruelty in children is renown; from pulling the legs off of
spiders
to blowing the heads off ostriches with shotguns because it's
funny/amusing to see 'em still running for a few paces, to smashing
someone's face in and putting them in hospital because THAT
satisfied/justified your own personally fucked feelings at the time??
Brian, because you're either not man enought to defend a vulnerable
female in your life or, more likely, you don't have any females in
your life, don't point your knobbly arthritic finger at me about what
I did when something very certainly needed to be done to defend a
young woman who was on the verge of being raped.
### - yeah... but'cha DON'T have to be caveman about it! LOL :)))
What sort of weak cunt are you mate? Over here, a man who defends a
woman and if necessary puts a potential rapist in hospital is lauded
and congratulated. I suspect the same in GB as well, bearing in mind
the extent of crime in London. Why are you so wimpish about stuff
like that? You got a pair haven't you?
### - you're a fool for leaving yourself wide open to prosecution you twit!
why didn't you just restrain him till the police came along? plus what
gives YOU the right to take the law into your own hands?? judge, jury AND >executioner?? riiiight...
lol in the uk you would have been nicked for grievous body harm no matter >what the other guy was doing (i.e., in law it's a simple matter of >'reasonable force' and what 'you' did was totally unreasonable! totally! >completely unacceptable! you're a thug! and as such; almost as bad as the >cunt you beat up! ("lawmen fighting in the dance hall, oh man look at
those cavemen go!")
On the other hand, if you're homosexual, I apologise for the comment
above about not having females in your life.
### - you idiot lol :))))
You are comparing apples with oranges. You can't possible think that >>>>>> it is possible to rationally compare a child, with it's half formed >>>>>> brain, with an adult? Really?
### - for all their so-developed brains most adults are cunts; having >>>>> lost
their innocence they've also almost completely lost their humanity too >>>>> in
the process; what's so difficult to understand about that?? (unless
you're
as thick as shit that is hehehe...) :)
They never were innocent. You clearly have never had children.
### - already TOLD ya that i have? that have been there/done that and
that
it's now all behind me?
mahatma-slider i called myself as a joke in that regard? (the 'same'
joke
jeremy then leaped on to accuse me of having abandoned my family & kids, >>> remember?)
No I don't remember. Did you abandon your wife and kids? Or did they
abandon you? Or, did you never have a family? Someone is a very
callous person.
### - losing your mental faculties already sport, or is just a convenient >lack of memory lol
riiiiight...
kids are wide open to whatever they're exposed to! they become what
they're 'shown' to become and don't 'invent' ANY of it for themselves!
Didn't you abandon yours? Or they abandoned you? Or you didn't have
any? In any of these cases, how the royal FUCK would you know?
### - give your bad thoughts a rest; am in my 60'a and my kids simply grew >up, is that ok for ya?? lol :)
So you see, through your inexperience with children, you have arrived
at a conclusion which is contrary to the facts. Children are rarerly
perfect beings (outside of looks which is very superficial) - they
become much better beings as they grow older.
### - bollocks! the vast (apart from the drones) the vast majority of
them
become delinquent!
Holy fuck. You are so sick Brian, to think that. My god. Most kids
I know have never been delinquent. They develop into perfectly good
adults. What a twisted outlook on your own species you have.
### - depends entirely on 'what' ya call delinquent? (we're worlds apart >see?)
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 07:38:37 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:30:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:57:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:41:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchusWell at least you left the fucking thread in, unlike David Jerome.
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite >>>>>>> deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually
achieving
by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at >>>>>>> home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either! >>>>>>>
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is
happening,
facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not
libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump is >>>>>> maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the >>>>>> puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way. >>>>>>
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond
everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed pig! >>>>
Thanks for the continuity.
### - i do it because i realise the difficulty you have with all this,
but
you still have to know that it's an otherwise common + accepted practice >>> to snip remarks and/or to highlight things/quotes in such a manner and
it's NOT necessarily an affront? (e.g., out of a whole rambling
discourse
someone might only pick up on a single, possibly even completely outta
context, remark, and 'go' on that alone! and it's valid to do so! that's >>> how the majority operate! to then demand them to start tip-toeing around >>> you because you've gots a bit of a limp in that direction or whatever in >>> that dept., is actually asking a bit much as you're asking 'them' to
change rather than you having to go to some extra lengths yourself...
it's
your problem really not theirs, and can't justifiably be pushed-off onto >>> others?)
You've completely missed the point. I KNOW all this, I've been using
NGs/usenet since the late 80's, I know usenetiquette (and I use paid
servers, unlike you lot of text-only parasites lol).
What David Jerome does, and Chris too, is ignorantly snip *everything*
which on a modern newsreader like Agent 7 doesn't attribute a response
to any particular poster's reply. It's guesswork due to lack of
manners. You with me now?
### - have 'been' with you (on this) all along matey! i totally understand >your dilemma and how it affects you! what you don't understand, however,
is that it's easy for us so-called 'normal' people to do exactly what you
say you have difficulty with? that it's actually only "ignorant" from
'your' pov alone because you can't make those leaps (of unspoken
intellect) that seems to come so easy to the likes of us! (i even spelled
it out for ya above and you still didn't get it?) but which is not through >any fault of yours other than you were born a bit different to all these >others is all...
i.e., when presented with a single line that's been say snipped from a far >longer post and is now isolated, you're supposed to see what the they
'mean' (and/or imply) by doing that with it... and it can be many things;
a change of subject or a tangent thereof albeit still loosely related to
the original context, and/or may be them highlighting what they consider
to be the perhaps more salient point which they either agree with or the >reverse! there's no rules to shit like that? thus one has to try and >see/understand what they're saying & why + respond accordingly, it can
even be a joke or a criticism, and in some instances both! can even be >rhetorical! so it's no good shouting at us because there's something we
can do but you can't? (besides which, it's no biggie anyway so you
shouldn't really make such a fuss? if there's something ya don't
understand then simply just ask ffs?) :)
who doesn't give a damn about anything except his own little fucked up >>>>> business world thang...
You presume that. There is no evidence. He can be both you know - a
canny and tough businessman *and* a patriot. JFK was - he was worth
close to a billion, Washington was a patriot and was the wealthiest
POTUS until Trump. The Clintons are not impoverished. Hoover was
worth uncountable millions - all mining related. Many have had major
businesses and been POTUS and of course been patriots. Trump is
definitely a patriot and you are letting your dogma and
predispositions/cant/biases get in the way of clear thought.
### - he ONLY knows his OWN lifestyle thang! and typically fights/aims
to
perpetuate only that which he knows! lol if he came to brixton and lived >>> here with me for a while (perish the thought! shudder...) he's be
completely outta his depth! lost! floundering even! and lol prolly
wouldn't even last a minute before begging to be able to get back to his >>> comfy little... world!
iow: there's a LOT of 'Reality' right here where am living that he
doesn't
know fuck-all about! is completely unaware of! is terrified of actually
hah! and perforce avoids like the proverbial plague!
i.e., at least obama 'could' walk into a bar and at least 'pretend' to
be
having a pint with his fellow man? (true it was ultimately only a pr
exercise heh, but silly-bollocks couldn't even 'conceive' of ever doing
such a thing?? it wouldn't even occur to him!)
make no mistake my friend, he does not have yours or mine best
interests
at heart whatsoever!
No he doesn't. He has the USA's best interests at heart.
### - i doubt he even has 'that' sport hah!
Yeah he has. He's a patriot after all, now I see that.
### - "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel..." --oscar wilde haha
:)
he's JUST a businessman! (think/imagine de-nero in that movie
'Limitless'
for a more complete view of the fucker heh... corrupt as they come!
geez)
*just*? Like practically every POTUS has had business interests?
Don't you have any superannuation Slider? That's a business interest,
depending on the market for your returns.
Shades of grey pal. You cannot reduce the irreducible.
### - he's a businessman NOT a humanitarian!
big difference! ("bet you'd sell your mother, you can buy another!"
--10-cc, in ref. to trumpy-boy!)
and perforce all the fucking right-wing are eventually gonna rallyWrong. There are shades of right and shades of left - Stalin and Mao
around
the bum because THAT'S the only interests at heart he has and believes >>>>> in!
right is right! the rule of fist! peace through strength (riiiight...) >>>>
were left, and look at what they did to their own peoples. Tens of
millions murdered, starved, disposessed. They both forged despotic
armies which enslaved vast parts of the world. Again, you throw
cheap, thoughtless slogans instead of using that vaunted 160 IQ to
clearly, incisively think.
### - 'too far' left & 'too far' right and it all starts getting
cloudy...
ya have to walk in the middle (or rather: between thus avoiding) those 2 >>> mountains, not climb them ;)
Those mountains are illusions. People can have a conservative bent
while being assiduous liberatarians who grow their own pot. You
cannot put a human mind into a round or square hole, far too complex a
thing.
### - don't deflect/prevaricate! you stated categorically that both left & >right were guilty of atrocities! (Sic. hahaha) and i replied; that it's
only at the 'extremes' that ya get all that shit!
old trumpy-boy is far-right! (not extreme far right, at least not yet,
hah!) so all the attributes of the right-wing are accentuated/exaggerated
in him!
for 'sanity to prevail, however, ya have to choose the most 'intelligent' >spot available!
which, as it turns out, is only 'just' left of centre ;)
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come to >>>>> that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his
own
doorstep??
Absolutely. We are a great strategic partner to the US, always have
been. Presidents come and go - our friendship with the US will last
forever and goes both ways.
### - lol i reckon he'd prolly sell his own mother if there was a profit >>> in it hah!
(band called 10cc: "betcha sell your mother, you could buy another..."
hehehe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foT1ITubs1A - great lyrics heh ;)
he's militarising the world!
What nonsense. I expect better from you, ok? The fucking world is
already militarised, always has been, may always be so (I don't know,
it's a reasonable extrapolation but I don't have a crystal ball,
unlike you).
### - all those billions of dollars of arms to saudi? south korea?
japan?
and more??
he's certainly doin' HIS bit for world peace then innit lol
(riiiight...)
He's stopped war with DPRK for the time being. If Hillary had been
elected we would probably be at war with both Russia and DPRK/China by
now.
### - nonsense! the left don't start wars by confronting things! the left >wants to talk & negotiate, come to some amicable deal, whereas the rights' >peace through: 'we'll punch yer fuckin' lights out mate if you don't
comply' isn't ABOUT negotiation; it's about coercion and force!
like he sent all those nuclear warships up there to... 'negotiate???
riiiiight... :)
and that's a good thing, right?
No, it's an incorrect, deluded thing. Read history for fucks sake
Slider.
### - 110 billion in arms to saudi alone 'since' he took office!?
AND all the rest?? ya don't need fucking a crystal ball to see all that
going on lol :)
peace through strength??? (iow: via war of necessary! easily!)
so why doesn't he help the 'poor' peeps IF he's such a nice chap??
Listen mate, peep is the sound a fucking chook (chicken) makes. The
word is "people". Don't be cute, you're too old. Also, look up the
word "affectation".
### - so, 'ducking' the above searching question in-favour of changing the >subject and pulling me up on some silly term have been using for simply
ages now? really?? (where ya going? come back!)
NO! he's tightening the fucking purse strings even tighter on them
instead!
LESS health care instead of more? (only poor people need help with
health
care in a system where only the wealthy can get decent treatment ffs!)
THEY (the poor and dispossessed) are having to pay for the errors the
wealthy made???
where's the justice in that??
he's currently running the poor over en-mass with a fucking steamroller
thang!
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 01:14:41 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:40:29 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 07:38:37 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:30:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 00:57:13 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 12:41:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 04:06:18 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:10:59 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Trump does not do what
the majority of Americans want. It's
important to realize that.
### - what's important to realise, is that he's doing it all quite >>>>>>>>> deliberately.
deliberately going against the grain!
the only really interesting question is what is he actually
achieving
by
doing so?
chaos! that's what's he's cultivating pure & simple: chaos both at >>>>>>>>> home
&
abroad!
and i really don't think he's doing it at all by accident either! >>>>>>>>>
look deeper...
For once I completely agree. A superficial look at what is
happening,
facilitated by the left leaning "progressive" liberal (but not >>>>>>>> libertarian) "news" networks, will only lead to confusion. Trump >>>>>>>> is
maybe the first POTUS in a long while who is not controlled by the >>>>>>>> puppeteers. No invisible hand here, just Trump, doing it his way. >>>>>>>>
I have revised my original opinion. I now believe that beyond >>>>>>>> everything else, Trump is a patriot.
### - don't be ridiculous hah, he's just another fat-cat stuffed >>>>>>> pig!
Well at least you left the fucking thread in, unlike David Jerome. >>>>>> Thanks for the continuity.
### - i do it because i realise the difficulty you have with all this, >>>>> but
you still have to know that it's an otherwise common + accepted
practice
to snip remarks and/or to highlight things/quotes in such a manner and >>>>> it's NOT necessarily an affront? (e.g., out of a whole rambling
discourse
someone might only pick up on a single, possibly even completely outta >>>>> context, remark, and 'go' on that alone! and it's valid to do so!
that's
how the majority operate! to then demand them to start tip-toeing
around
you because you've gots a bit of a limp in that direction or whatever >>>>> in
that dept., is actually asking a bit much as you're asking 'them' to >>>>> change rather than you having to go to some extra lengths yourself... >>>>> it's
your problem really not theirs, and can't justifiably be pushed-off
onto
others?)
You've completely missed the point. I KNOW all this, I've been using
NGs/usenet since the late 80's, I know usenetiquette (and I use paid
servers, unlike you lot of text-only parasites lol).
What David Jerome does, and Chris too, is ignorantly snip *everything* >>>> which on a modern newsreader like Agent 7 doesn't attribute a response >>>> to any particular poster's reply. It's guesswork due to lack of
manners. You with me now?
### - have 'been' with you (on this) all along matey! i totally
understand
your dilemma and how it affects you! what you don't understand, however, >>> is that it's easy for us so-called 'normal' people to do exactly what
you
say you have difficulty with? that it's actually only "ignorant" from
'your' pov alone because you can't make those leaps (of unspoken
intellect) that seems to come so easy to the likes of us! (i even
spelled
it out for ya above and you still didn't get it?) but which is not
through
any fault of yours other than you were born a bit different to all these >>> others is all...
No you're not interpositioning what I've left unspoken. That is, that
I don't, like you, stay glued to this NG as though my very life
depends on it. I come and go intermittently, and rather infrequently.
To do so, I leave my reader (Forte Agent) in stasis from when I read
the messages to the next time I visit which might be up to a week
away. I have a life, which apparently, you do not.
When I reappear, I update my reader (Agent) which consigns all of my
old messaged to "read". I then update my message window to "unread"
which displays on those new messages appearing over the time since I
last updated/posted. This means that I need at least *some* vestige
of a thread to reconnect the new unread messages to my last postings
and the responses, if any, since I last updated my reader (Agent).
Because, Slider, I can't be fucked digging around in the cesspool of
old, read messages trying to do what any reasonably thoughtful cunt
should have done in the first place - which is left in some part of
the message thread so posters can find their place and ensure they are
responding to the latest posts etc etc.
You fucking presumptuous dill.
### - look, i got my problems, and you gots yours!
so stop complaining and just fuckin' deal with it! :)
things are harder for some & easier for others!
and none of that even matters a tinkers-cuss, except to maybe proud cunts
heh :)
i.e., when presented with a single line that's been say snipped from a
far
longer post and is now isolated, you're supposed to see what the they
'mean' (and/or imply) by doing that with it... and it can be many
things;
a change of subject or a tangent thereof albeit still loosely related to >>> the original context, and/or may be them highlighting what they consider >>> to be the perhaps more salient point which they either agree with or the >>> reverse! there's no rules to shit like that? thus one has to try and
see/understand what they're saying & why + respond accordingly, it can
even be a joke or a criticism, and in some instances both! can even be
rhetorical! so it's no good shouting at us because there's something we
can do but you can't? (besides which, it's no biggie anyway so you
shouldn't really make such a fuss? if there's something ya don't
understand then simply just ask ffs?) :)
What a steaming pile of bollocks. Of course there are rules to
usenet. But you wouldn't know, you use free text only services or
fucking Spoogle, which fucked up Deja News when it bought it out and
then left it to ferment and rot. You don't have the dollar or two to
spend on a decent server with great retention and authenticated
posting and rules and TOS and so on. You just fester in your cosmic
ingnorance, as per usual. Oh, here's the smiley ... :)
### - correction: there USED to be rules to the usnet but not anymore!
i.e., bandwidth is longer a concern!
but hey let's all be 'free' by making another bunch of... rules???
riiiight... :)
By the way, shouting in usenet is UPPER CASE. I *never* use upper
case. Therefore, I do not SHOUT.
You complete, moronic dolt.
### - HEEEY! RULES-BOY! - I CAN SHOUT IF I FUCKIN' WANT! :)
but then so can you so stfu! (lol:))))
old trumpy-boy is far-right! (not extreme far right, at least not yet,
hah!) so all the attributes of the right-wing are
accentuated/exaggerated
in him!
for 'sanity to prevail, however, ya have to choose the most
'intelligent'
spot available!
which, as it turns out, is only 'just' left of centre ;)
There are no "spots". The human mind and brain (yep, they are two
separate things) are the most complex and intricate objects and things
known to man, and we can see to the edge of a radius of around 45
billion light years.
And you want to reduce that to a "spot"? I thought you had an IQ of
160+?
### - you can be so annoyingly slooow on the uptake sometimes hahaha :)))
rewind ok? (laffing...)
if... too far left or right turns out to be a problem (which it surely
is!) then surely there must also be a kinda sweet-spot where it's perhaps
a more intelligent place to stand (politically) between those extremes, >right?
and am simply suggesting that, accordingly; 'just' left-of-center 'is'
that spot!
not too-far left see... and defo NOT going right! :)
that of ALL the places it's *possible* to stand, both mentally and >politically, 'just-left' of that center-line is where it's all at! maan...
:)
do you really think he'd even hesitate to burn oz (or anywhere come >>>>>>> to
that!) if there was a profit in it as long as it's not right on his >>>>>>> own
doorstep??
Absolutely. We are a great strategic partner to the US, always have >>>>>> been. Presidents come and go - our friendship with the US will last >>>>>> forever and goes both ways.
### - lol i reckon he'd prolly sell his own mother if there was a
profit
in it hah!
(band called 10cc: "betcha sell your mother, you could buy another..." >>>>> hehehe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foT1ITubs1A - great lyrics heh ;)
he's militarising the world!
What nonsense. I expect better from you, ok? The fucking world is >>>>>> already militarised, always has been, may always be so (I don't know, >>>>>> it's a reasonable extrapolation but I don't have a crystal ball,
unlike you).
### - all those billions of dollars of arms to saudi? south korea?
japan?
and more??
he's certainly doin' HIS bit for world peace then innit lol
(riiiight...)
He's stopped war with DPRK for the time being. If Hillary had been
elected we would probably be at war with both Russia and DPRK/China by >>>> now.
### - nonsense! the left don't start wars by confronting things! the
left
wants to talk & negotiate, come to some amicable deal, whereas the
rights'
peace through: 'we'll punch yer fuckin' lights out mate if you don't
comply' isn't ABOUT negotiation; it's about coercion and force!
Oh yeah, just like Joe Stalin when he did his deal with Hitler to
invade and partition the eastern portion of Poland when Hitler invaded
and occupied the western portion of Poland. And later, Joe took those
17,000 Polish officers out to the Katyn forest and executed them - he
didn't like intelligentsia hanging around.
Joe ran the Soviet Union by the way, the CCCP (Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics). The CCCP was a little bit to the left, wouldn't
you say?
### - we've already 'dispensed' with the extremes because their positions >aren't tenable!
so both stalin AND hitler (and any 'other' extremes) are out! completely
out!
don't go back there again when we've just ruled them out?
we cannot even consider them because they're both equally insane options!
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