• Re: Jesus Don't Need No Stinking Christianity

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, December 24, 2018 13:37:24
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    FIVE BARLEY LOAVES AND TWO SMALL FISHES SUPPLIED BY A BOY

    The Feeding of the 5,000 is also known as the "miracle of the five loaves and two fish"; the Gospel of John reports that Jesus used five barley loaves and two small fish supplied by a boy to feed a multitude. According to Matthew's gospel, when Jesus
    heard that John the Baptist had been killed, he withdrew by boat privately to a
    solitary place. Luke specifies that the place was near Bethsaida. The crowds followed Jesus on foot from the towns. When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd,
    he had compassion
    on them and healed their sick. As evening approached, the disciples came to him
    and said, "This is a remote place, and it's already getting late. Send the crowds away, so they can go to the villages and buy themselves some food."

    Jesus said that they did not need to go away, and therefore the disciples were to give them something to eat. They said that they only had five loaves of bread and two fish, which Jesus asked be brought to him. Jesus directed the people to sit down in
    groups on the grass. In Mark's Gospel, the crowds sat in groups of 50 and 100,[1] and in Luke's Gospel, Jesus' instructions were to seat the crowd in groups of 50,[2] implying that there were 100 such groups.

    Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve
    baskets full of broken pieces that were left over. The number of those who ate was about five thousand men, beside women and children. In John's Gospel, the multitude has been attracted around Jesus because of the healing works he has performed, and the
    feeding of the multitude is taken as a further sign (Greek: σημεῖον) that Jesus is the Messiah, the prophet who (according to the promise in Deuteronomy 18:15) is to come into the world" (John 6:14).[3]

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_of_Siloam#/media/File:City_of_davidDSCN4616.JPG

    The miracle of healing the man born blind is one of the miracles of Jesus in the Gospels.

    According to the Gospel of John, 9:1–12,[1] Jesus saw a man who had been blind since birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his
    parents, that he was born blind?"

    Jesus replied:

    Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so
    that the works of God might be displayed in him. As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I
    am in the world,
    I am the light of the world.

    Having said this, he spat on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put
    it on the man's eyes. "Go," he told him, "wash in the Pool of Siloam" (this word means "Sent"). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing.

    His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging asked, "Isn't this the same man who used to sit and beg?" Some claimed that he was. Others said, "No, he only looks like him." But he himself insisted, "I am the man."

    "How then were your eyes opened?" they asked. He replied, "The man they call Jesus made some mud and put it on my eyes. He told me to go to Siloam and wash.
    So I went and washed, and then I could see."


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    ???
    You rang Mr. Adams
    Very suspicious Pool Boy
    Seems one boy never aged and the other did age
    A mystery of the ages
    Merry Christmas Mr. Eight :-)
    Merry Christmas Fifty Nine, Peace to The Girl and Her Cohorts
    ...
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    Looking Glass - Brandy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7FWnbAaCI

    Allman Brothers - Whipping Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, December 24, 2018 13:12:35
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Remember always that Jesus last act was to scourge the money changers
    in the temple with a whip, turn over their tables and drive them out.

    Yes, it got him crucified... A final stand.

    Doobie Brothers - Jesus Is Just Alright https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ9WHaSKlgU

    Jesus doesn't need Christianity. His example is powerful without any religion at all.

    Will there be room at the inn for Jesus in our setting as we become more of a post-Christian society in the years and decades ahead? We can hope so.

    In the Christmas story being told in households and churches across the land, Jesus was born in a manger. Although romanticized in tales and hymns, the bed of hay and company of livestock do not constitute an ideal setting for birthing
    a baby. But Mary
    and Joseph had no choice. There was no room at the inn.

    Will there be room at the inn for Jesus in our setting as we become more of a post-Christian society in the years and decades ahead?

    We can hope so, whether we are Christian or not.

    Potent cultural forces are vying to crowd him out, of course. Chief among them is secularization, which has advanced to the point where roughly a quarter of Americans — and upwards of 40 percent of younger Americans — belong to no church or any
    other kind of religious organization. Many who have left organized Christianity, or were never part of it to begin with, throw out the baby (Jesus) with the bathwater.

    Along with that, New York Times columnist Ross Douthat sees paganism seeping into the vacuum left by the recession of traditional Christianity. In a recent column, Douthat, who is Catholic, notes that a kind of this-world spirituality is gaining ground
    as more people eschew the transcendent God of the Bible. Not atheistic, this spirituality seeks meaning and succor in nature, ritual, even in supernatural forces. Douthat predicts, gloomily, that this pagan “religion” might be on its way to becoming
    Christianity’s successor.

    Jesus gets no mention in Douthat’s piece. That’s telling. Because in the traditional religious formulation, as in the secular one, Jesus plays little if
    any role in the world other than the Christianized one that frames him as the divine son of God,
    the savior in whom we must believe and whose divinity we must accept, if we’re to avoid hell and reach heaven’s gate.

    But is it really such an either/or? Can’t Jesus have a future beyond Christianity as we’ve known it?

    He can. And should.
    The figure of Jesus can outlast our Christendom

    Law professor and blogger Bruce Ledewitz was quick to pick up on the omission of Jesus in Douthat’s column. Doubtful that paganism has much of a foothold or future, Ledewitz writes that there’s another possibility: the emergence of
    a “secularized”
    Christianity built around the values of Jesus.

    The professor gets it right. Just as the person of Jesus came before Christianity, so might the figure of Jesus — philosopher, teacher, moral exemplar — outlast American Christendom. If secular people can focus on the values and teachings of Jesus
    without getting tripped up by the religious context — which comes naturally for some, not so easily for others — they might find a surprisingly relevant source of guidance and uplift.

    Here is a figure who, with his unwavering commitment to honoring the dignity and humanity of all people, has much to say to the issues that roil society today: Black Lives Matter, #MeToo, the arrival of traumatized immigrants at our
    border, and the
    despair in our bursting-at-the-scenes prisons and forgotten rural communities.

    What would happen if our moral and policy evaluations were injected with the ethic of Jesus, who taught that the ultimate test of our character is how we treat those with the least power and status, those we can most easily get away with abusing and
    forgetting?


    THE ULTIMATE TEST OF OUR CHARACTER
    IS HOW WE TREAT THOSE WITH THE LEAST POWER AND STATUS.

    This is a figure who stands in stark contrast with the prevailing norms of a culture obsessed with the acquisition of status, wealth and consumer products. President Donald Trump promised that our “wins” would be so many under his leadership that we
    d get sick of winning. No chance of that happening. Materialism’s hunger is never satisfied and its thirst is never slaked.
    Christmas offers time to reflect on his insights

    How different would our society and lives be if we found real meaning and truth
    in a story that finds the protagonist racking up zero wins of the political or economic variety, but instead gets executed in the most humiliating way imaginable?

    As Christians will quickly remind, the story does not end there. Resurrection anyone? But you will note that in the Bible telling, Jesus’ brief and ethereal appearances post-crucifixion continue to be other worldly. No thrones.
    No riches. No
    overturning of harsh Roman rule over Jesus’ people.

    In this case as in many biblical stories, secular meaning is there for the taking, along with the religious significance. Can’t we take resurrection as a signifier that the story and values of Jesus endure and, indeed, trump the values of power and
    privilege?

    Whether we celebrate it in churches or not, Christmas furnishes a prime opportunity to reflect on the meaning of this child whose family found no room at the inn. In his brief career, that child would go on to convey profound insights that remain as
    relevant today as they did 2,000 years ago: the value of philanthropic love, especially for those we find hardest to tolerate; the reality that we become truly strong only when we allow ourselves to be vulnerable; and the truth that we experience the
    fullness of life only when we stop living for ourselves.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/23/christmas-celebrate-jesus-moral-insights-values-america-secular-christianity-column/2381583002/

    Will there be room at the inn for Jesus in the years and decades to come? We really ought to make some.

    Shipley - One Toke Over The Line
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVxA1MkEkyo

    If you were in possession of advanced technology would you resurrect Jesus!?!

    67 Summer Of Love - Bang A Gong / Voodoo Shoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZkTh_T75QY

    :-)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, December 24, 2018 14:00:06
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Klauses
    Mom & Pops
    One Stop Shoppe

    Beatles - Revolution
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLGzRXY5Bw

    Dylan - It's Alright
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYajHZ4QUVM

    Led Zeppelin - Moby Dick
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ

    Stones - Angie
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlSbQNHHy50

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