• One thing about the LV thing no one has thought of

    From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 09:59:37
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    Paddock shot himself (evidently) in the mouth.

    Yet the windows were broken and a better way to go would have been to
    throw himself out the window or stand in front of it and take out some
    cops then go out the window.

    He was close to the window cos he was shooting through it. Why not go
    through it when the jig was up? He still wouldn't feel a thing when
    he hit (32 floors down, doing terminal velocity well over 200kph).

    Doesn't quite pass the smell test...along with the fact Campos was
    shot 9 minutes before Paddock started shooting and now he's nowhere to
    be found (Campos, that is).

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  • From whisperoutloud@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 19:05:44
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Campos is around. Don't worry about him.

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  • From whisperoutloud@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 07:57:57
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Campos will be on TV today.
    He took no money for appearing
    on the Ellen Show. Doesn't
    really reveal anything new.
    That's all folks.

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to allreadydun@gmail.com on Thursday, October 19, 2017 05:42:41
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT), whisperoutloud <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

    Campos will be on TV today.
    He took no money for appearing
    on the Ellen Show. Doesn't
    really reveal anything new.
    That's all folks.

    One mystery down. Infinite mystery remaining...


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  • From whisperoutloud@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, November 02, 2017 16:45:07
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Nov. 02-- LAS VEGAS-The man who shot hundreds and killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest music festival a month ago was a narcissist who may have seen his image
    as a high-rolling gambler declining, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said as the investigation
    into the Oct. 1 shooting rampage entered its second month.

    "He was going through some bouts of depression. But he was status-driven," Lombardo said in a wide-ranging interview with 8 News Now in Las Vegas that offered the first hints of what might have driven 64-year-old Stephen Paddock to open fire from the
    32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel.

    Paddock had been losing money for two years, Lombardo said, and had been showing signs of depression.

    "Since September 2015, he's lost a significant amount of wealth, and I think that might have been a determining factor on what he was determined to do," Lombardo said.

    "This individual was status-driven based on how he liked to be recognized in the casino environment and how he liked to be recognized by his friends and family. So obviously that was starting to decline in the short period of time and that may have had a
    determining effect on why decided to do what he did," the sheriff said.

    "He was going in the wrong direction."

    Lombardo said investigators still don't understand precisely what set Paddock off a little more than a year ago when he began stockpiling weapons and scouting locations around the country. Paddock fatally shot himself at the end of his 10-minute-long
    attack, and the hard drives that had been removed from the computers found in his room have not been found, the sheriff said.

    Lombardo used the interview to try and set straight the initially confusing timelines offered by authorities in the days after the shooting.

    The chief questions have centered around the fact that Paddock was able to fire
    at the crowd opposite the hotel for a full 10 minutes, though a hotel security guard had been shot before the main shooting rampage began, and had reported it.

    What happened was this, the sheriff said: The security guard, Jesus Campos, had
    been alerted that a room on the 32nd floor had a door that had been held open for a long period of time. He found that the door to that floor from the stairwell had been
    barricaded, and he radioed in to report that at 9:59 p.m.

    Campos, Lombardo said, then took the stairs to the 33rd floor, exited, walked to the elevators and took one back down to the 32nd floor. He was shot in the leg as he walked outside Paddock's door.

    "So subsequently you have a couple minutes of him going up, going down the elevators and back down the hallway and then he encounters the suspect," Lombardo said. "He receives a wound, he attempts to go through his radio and then he also confirms his
    communication with dispatch via cellphone."

    All of the timelines have shown that Paddock opened fire on the crowd at 10:05 p.m. What time did Campos report that he had been shot? Police have never said,
    and Lombardo didn't elaborate on that in his Wednesday night interview.

    "We didn't know shots were fired until 10:05 pm-10:04:55 or something like that," Lombardo said. "That's when we actually determined-through calls for service, computer-aided dispatch, body-worn cameras, other people's observations through videos in Uber,
    taxis things like that-we feel pretty comfortable in that the large amounts of
    firing by the suspect occurred at 10:05 p.m."

    Two Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officers already were at the Mandalay Bay on another call and began working their way up the stairs as the shooting began. They, too, came across the barricaded stairwell door.

    "So that was right around 10 minutes they were able to do that. So that's pretty amazing in public safety time you call dispatch, you get a revise, you formulate a plan, you ascend the stairwell, you have no idea what floor it is, you're receiving
    information from disparate directions, and then you encounter this blocked doorway-and that was right around 10 minutes," Lombardo said.

    "And then our other officers ascended via the elevator bank and came out into the foyer or hallway from the elevator bank there-right around 12 minutes. During that time, the suspect had stopped firing. And so when we don't hear any
    firing taking place,
    then it becomes slow and methodical."

    At that point, he said, it was important to extract people from adjacent rooms to ensure their safety and plan a breach of Paddock's room.

    By the time they entered, the gunman had shot himself. "I honestly believe that
    he believed the wolf was at the door-being us, LVMPD-and that is when he made the decision to take his life," Lombardo said.

    Paddock expended more than 1,000 rounds over the 10 minutes he fired, in what authorities were able to identify as 12 bursts. The pauses between them, Lombardo said, could have resulted from either jammed or faulty weapons, or the
    need to replace clips
    as they were emptied.

    Paddock made money on real estate investments and described himself as a professional gambler, though he had previously worked also as a defense industry auditor. He often spent long hours playing video poker.

    But Lombardo said Paddock had "gone up and down" in his wealth and had recently
    been losing money.

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