• Re: "A wall is immoral!" Pelosi is an IDIOT

    From moviePig@1:229/2 to Ubiquitous on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 00:00:35
    From: pwallace@moviepig.com

    On 1/8/2019 12:32 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:
    fredp151@gmail.com wrote:
    On 1/8/19 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:

    It is the sense of the Congress that the mission statement
    of the Immigration and Naturalization Service should include
    a statement that it is the responsibility of the Service to
    detect, apprehend, and remove those aliens unlawfully
    present in the United States, particularly those aliens
    involved in drug trafficking or other criminal activity."
    ~Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant
    Responsibility Act of 1996, Pub. L. 104-208

    The media wants us to continue being frogs in a slow-boiling pot of
    water and not to realize how much the political temperature has
    shifted on the issue of national sovereignty. But if we jump out of
    the water for a moment and explore relatively recent history on the
    issue, we will learn that protecting our border, building the wall,
    working with local law enforcement, expediting deportations,
    clamping down on visa overstays, and deporting criminal aliens were
    all consensus issues.

    Several "conservative" commentators (see Jay Cost and Charlie Sykes)
    have lamented the fact that Republicans once fought government
    funding battles over fiscal restraint and are now doing so over
    immigration. They are bemoaning what is in their view a negative
    shift towards so-called nationalist priorities. But they are missing
    one major point, a point that reveals that it is in fact they and
    the Democrats who have shifted, not the rest of us. The reason there
    was a shutdown fight in 1996 over spending and welfare and not over
    immigration is because President Clinton agreed to sign the GOP's
    toughest overhaul of illegal immigration law in a generation! There
    was no shutdown because Republicans got much of what they wanted.
    And they got what they wanted because Democrats, including Schumer
    and Pelosi, once believed in a modicum of sovereignty.

    The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of
    1996 ("IIRIRA 96"), originally the "Immigration in the National
    Interest Act of 1995," was signed into law by President Clinton on
    September 30, 1996, after the final conference bill passed the House
    370-37 and the Senate by voice vote.

    This bill essentially contained all the promises Trump has made,
    from the wall and clamping down on visa overstays to robust interior
    enforcement and expedited deportations, except that it was tailored
    for that time period. Many of the provisions failed because they
    were ignored by past presidents and state and local governments and
    twisted by the courts. This bill was designed to fulfill the wayward
    promise of the 1986 amnesty and to finally fulfill the pledge to
    protect Americans from the cost of illegal immigration. Those
    promises have not been met, and millions of illegals later, millions
    of pounds of drugs later, and trillions in costs later, these same
    politicians have no interest in rectifying the promise they helped
    break once again.

    Unlike today, Republicans actually had a vision and a sense of
    purpose. One of their agenda items was to cut back on legal
    immigration, which was a failed promise of the 1990 bill. The other
    was to end illegal immigration - completely. It was the former goal
    that Democrats opposed, which is why Republicans originally attached
    their legal immigration cuts to the illegal immigration bill.
    Democrats gutted it. But they all broadly agreed on the goal of
    stopping illegal immigration. To be clear, Democrats insidiously
    weakened some provisions and only allowed for a ban on in-state
    tuition for illegals, not K-12 education per the original version of
    the bill, but they still all agreed on the core provisions of
    interior enforcement we are trying to implement today.

    As the Washington Post explained at the time, "By shifting their
    focus to a crackdown on illegal aliens, the representatives seized
    an issue on which there is broad agreement but did little to lower
    the overall influx of immigrants, most of whom come to the United
    States legally" [emphasis added].

    To punctuate this point, we must not forget that the Welfare Reform
    Act of 1996, which was signed just one month earlier and born out of
    the government shutdown the year before, explicitly barred illegal
    immigrants from accessing welfare. The bill contained language
    expressing the sentiment that it was a "compelling government
    interest to remove the incentive for illegal immigration provided by
    the availability of public benefits." The bill used the word "alien"
    93 times.

    As I've lamented before, the courts and executive malfeasance have
    allowed the letter and spirit of the welfare law to be violated. But
    a number of Democrats voted for it at the time, and President
    Clinton signed it into law.

    A similar dynamic happened with the IIRIRA, except that Pelosi and
    Schumer actually voted for that immigration enforcement bill. Among
    other things, the law accomplished the following:

    • It provided for funding of 5,000 border agents and a 14-mile
    triple-layer border fence in San Diego, which worked well for years.
    Section 102 also gave the attorney general (now the DHS secretary) a
    general mandate that he "shall take such actions as may be necessary
    to install additional physical barriers and roads (including the
    removal of obstacles to detection of illegal entrants) in the
    vicinity of the United States border to deter illegal crossings in
    areas of high illegal entry into the United States."

    • The bill called for an automated entry-exit control system within
    two years to clamp down on visa overstays.

    • The bill dramatically expanded deportations and explicitly
    stripped the courts of jurisdiction to adjudicate many of these
    cases. For example, the bill stated, "No court can accept
    jurisdiction in most cases where person assert an interest under
    legalization provisions in the Immigration and Nationality Act." We
    are tragically paying for the results of courts ignoring these
    provisions to this very day.

    • Section 531(4) updated the public charge laws by directing
    adjudicators of green card application to consider factors such as
    age, health, family status, financial resources, education, and
    skills. All relatives bringing in immigrants were forced to sign a
    legally enforceable affidavit promising to provide financial support
    if needed. Unfortunately, none of this has been followed until the
    Trump administration, but it is still the law, a law that Pelosi and
    Schumer supported. Only .00008 percent of applications between
    fiscal year 2005 and fiscal year 2011 were disqualified on the
    public charge basis, even though overwhelming majorities of
    immigrants from a number of top sending countries are on welfare.

    • The bill provided for new programs promoting employment
    verification. While E-Verify was developed from this bill, the
    intent of the law was never followed through. In fact, the IRS still
    explicitly invited illegals to work, file tax returns, and receive
    refundable tax credits, a violation both of this provision of IIRIRA
    and the welfare reform bill.

    • The bill tightened up asylum requirements and barred asylum to all
    those who have access to another safe country, which in today's
    cases means Mexico. It also permanently barred those applying under
    frivolous pretenses from ever immigrating here. The intent and
    letter of this law have now been flipped on their heads by the
    courts.

    • The bill expanded the definition of "aggravated felony" as defined
    to trigger deportability of even legal immigrants. This is another
    provision that has been twisted by the courts. Congress also
    criminalized female genital mutilation, another provision that has
    been "struck down" by a wayward district judge.

    • federal government to train local law enforcement in helping
    enforce immigration law. Obama gutted the program, and now many
    sanctuaries have pulled out of it.

    • It barred states from providing in-state tuition breaks to
    illegals. Nevertheless, this was never enforced, and at least 20
    states were allowed to aid and abet illegal immigrants.

    The point is that anyone who voted for this bill 22 years ago
    should, by a factor of 10,000, support the reaffirmation and
    expansion of these provisions today, now that we see that the other
    two branches of government have evaded the provisions and also that
    the results of what Congress was trying to stop in '96 are worse
    today. The law was just but never worked as intended because of
    executive laziness and malfeasance as well as judicial tyranny. If
    Schumer and Pelosi were good to their word, they would agree with
    all the tightening of the statutes Trump is calling for, because
    they are needed to preserve the promise of the bill _they voted
    for_.

    While Democrats opposed the idea of slashing legal immigration and
    some grumbled about increasing deportability of certain crimes for
    legal immigrants, none of them had the temerity to (at least
    publicly) side with illegal immigrants. Clinton's chief of staff,
    Leon Panetta, who would later become Obama's secretary of Defense
    and CIA director, best summed up the Democrat view at the time, as
    reported by the San Francisco Chronicle. "We all understand the
    problem of illegal immigrants. We're all trying to ensure that we
    have additional enforcement to protect against illegal immigrants,"
    he said. "But I, for the life of me, do not understand why we need
    to penalize legal immigrants in that process."

    This is why Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Steny Hoyer,
    and James Clyburn, Democrat leaders who were all in the House at the
    time, voted for the bill. Only 13 Democrats in the House voted no.
    In fact, more Republicans voted no because they were upset that the
    bill was gutted too much in conference and wasn't strong enough.

    What about the California delegation, including Dianne Feinstein,
    who is still serving?

    Here is more from the October 1, 1996, article in the San Francisco
    Chronicle:

    Senator Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., was generally pleased,
    saying "the rich tapestry of this country must continue to
    be woven by people who come to this country legally."

    "This is not a perfect bill, but its major thrust is stop
    illegal immigration and carried out and enforced I believe
    it can make a major step forward in that direction,"
    Feinstein said. But she said she was "disappointed" that
    the law did not increase the penalties on employers who
    hire illegal immigrants and that it did not have a more
    comprehensive verification system to identify illegal
    immigrants who try to work in the U.S.

    Senator Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., also welcomed the bill.
    "This bill recognizes that states like California which
    bear most of the burden of illegal immigration should not
    be left alone to deal with this national problem," she said.

    Even Nancy Pelosi, who was radicalized earlier than the others,
    still said on March 21, 1996, "I agree with my colleagues that we
    must curb illegal immigration responsibly and effectively."

    Thus, illegal immigration wasn't even an issue, except for a few
    provisions. And in fact, Feinstein wanted to be even tougher on
    employer sanctions. Feinstein, along with Patrick Leahy and Patty
    Murray, actually voted for the original Senate bill before it was
    gutted in conference. Even the stronger bill passed with 72 votes in
    the Senate.

    After decades of lies by people like Schumer, Pelosi, and Feinstein,
    Trump should deliver a televised address framing the entire
    immigration issue and showing how these people have failed on the
    promises he intends to deliver.

    You mean like the promise that Mexico would pay for that wall?
    Like that?

    "But but but but they do it toooo!!!"

    Inability to offre a rebuttal noted.
    Tu Coque noted.

    'You cock'?

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