• Re: Congressman, Native American: When political correctness runs amok

    From Chief Crazy Nigger From The Reserve@1:229/2 to Leroy N. Soetoro on Saturday, June 01, 2019 21:42:28
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    From: fdfsae@yahoo.com

    Leroy N. Soetoro wrote

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/21/congressman-native-
    a
    merican-
    when-political-correctness-runs-amok-erasing-our-history-
    doesn
    t-change- it.html

    Confederates lost. Don't celebrate traitors, slavers and
    losers.



    Americans should renounce Confederate leaders the same way
    Germans renounce Hitler

    Ever wonder why there are no statues of Adolf Hitler in Berlin?

    It's a question that President Trump should consider when
    declaring that monuments to Confederate leaders are part of our
    nation's great "history and culture." Hitler was part of German
    history and culture, too. But to this day, Germany rejects him
    as a traitor to his people.

    Every American should feel the same way about the leaders of
    the Confederacy as Germans feel towards Hitler. The Confederacy
    was an act of treason against the United States of America, its
    Constitution and one of its greatest Presidents. But alas,
    there are still close to 700 Confederate monuments strewn
    across the South. And President Trump — who, ironically, often
    says he's the best President since Lincoln — wants to maintain
    them.

    But the President is drawing the wrong history lesson from
    these statues and memorials. Monuments are never about history
    itself. They merely represent what the people putting up the
    monument think about history at the moment that the monument is
    being installed. That's why there were once so many statues of
    Lenin in the Soviet Union, yet so few now. Every generation
    gets to write history the way it wants. And every next
    generation gets to rewrite it.

    So it's no surprise that most of these monuments to our
    so-called national culture were installed in two major periods
    of Southern racist backlash: the era of Jim Crow segregation in
    the 1910s and 1920s and the Civil Rights era in the 1950s and
    1960s (historian Kenneth Kruse's chart makes this point very
    clearly).

    These monuments were put up by a succeeding generation to
    recast the earlier event, in this case that Confederate
    secession was not a traitorous act against the United States of
    America, but a noble effort to defend the honor of the South —
    with whites playing the starring roles.

    Perhaps President Trump should recall the lesson of Benedict
    Arnold. Just like Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Jefferson
    Davis and everyone who swore allegiance to the Confederacy,
    Arnold was a traitor to his country. He won many great battles
    early in the Revolutionary War, but because he betrayed his
    nation, there are no monument to him anywhere in this country.
    In fact, a monument to the Revolution in Saratoga has places
    for statues in each of its four corners, but only three statues
    are there: Horatio Gates, General Philip Schuyler and Colonel
    Daniel Morgan. The place where Arnold's statue should be, given
    his heroism at Saratoga, is empty.

    Nearby is a statue of a boot. Arnold famously injured his foot
    in the battle, yet fought on bravely. The plaque on the boot
    monument reads, "In memory of the most brilliant soldier of the
    Continental army, who was desperately wounded on this spot,
    winning for his countrymen the decisive battle of the American
    Revolution, and for himself the rank of Major General."

    Arnold's name is not on the monument — a statement by the later
    generation that his traitorous acts left him unworthy of
    respect (tellingly, there's a monument to Arnold in England,
    the nation he aided in deceit).

    The Jim Crow and anti-Civil Rights Southerners who put up
    monuments to their heroes saw treason differently than the
    Americans who put up the Saratoga monument. The Southern goal
    was two-fold: a) to intimidate blacks and b) to ensure that
    their leaders would be celebrated as part of our culture. Now
    the President is serving both agendas with his horrific
    tweeting on Thursday.

    These statues are not part of our culture. They are part of a
    racist effort to turn a segregationist, traitorous movement
    into a part of our culture.

    That effort must fail — and would fail if the President would
    find the moral integrity to just get out of the way and let
    today's generation recast history for itself.




    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/u-s-confederate-
    leaders
    -germans-hitler-article-1.3420013

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  • From Byker@1:229/2 to Chief Crazy Nigger From The Reserve on Saturday, June 01, 2019 18:53:20
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    From: byker@do~rag.net

    "Chief Crazy Nigger From The Reserve" wrote in message news:XnsAA61B41A73D91FDbz@178.63.61.145...

    Ever wonder why there are no statues of Adolf Hitler in Berlin?

    It won't be that way forever. Give it time... -------------------------------------------------------------
    Disney CEO Bob Iger: 'Hitler would have loved social media'

    Yahoo News
    April 11, 2019 https://news.yahoo.com/disney-ceo-bob-iger-hitler-would-have-loved-social-media-154325786.html

    "Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no
    reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people
    in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run."

    - Joseph Goebbelsï»ż

    How Many Germans Secretly Admire Hitler?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZi67BmY_M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkGQcw52KQQ

    The success of a newly released film in which Adolf Hitler is resurrected
    and returns to Germany reveals a sobering reality.

    BY BRAD MACDONALD
    OCTOBER 29, 2015

    Imagine if Adolf Hitler were resurrected and plunked down in the center of Berlin or Dusseldorf or a sleepy German village in rural Bavaria. What would the 20th-century despot think of modern Germany? More interestingly, what
    would modern Germans think of Hitler?

    This is the plotline of Look Who’s Back, a new film recently released in Germany. Look Who’s Back is based on the bestselling novel by Timur Vermes, and is a Borat-style satirical film in which Adolf Hitler comes to life and attempts to start a life in modern Germany. In the film, the resurrected
    Hitler travels the country, making observations, stirring up trouble, and,
    most interestingly, interviewing ordinary Germans. When Hitler sees Angela Merkel, he describes her as a “clumsy woman with the charisma of a wet noodle.” When he learns that Poland is still in existence, he acts
    surprised, remarking, “
 and in German territory no less.”

    Look Who’s Back has been a massive hit, at least by German standards. In its first two weeks it sold more than 1 million tickets and made more than $10 million. Last weekend, it snatched first spot from Pixar’s Inside Out,
    making it the number one recent release in Germany. The movie is already
    being prepared for international release.

    Although it’s only a movie, more than a few commentators—many of whom are Germans, including the film’s director, David Wnendt—have expressed concern at what this movie has apparently uncovered. Deutsche Welle explained the reception Hitler and his film crew received as they traveled across Germany. “Everywhere they went, they got similar reactions: passersby who cheer
    Hitler on as he drives past, stand upright and make the Hitler salute. Many took photos.” The Washington Post interviewed Wnendt: “Most of these people react to the sight of one of the 20th century’s vilest leaders with excitement and amusement. They pose for selfies with the feared Nazi leader
    and perform the famous Hitler salute for him” (emphasis added).

    The Hitler salute is actually illegal in Germany, but these people didn’t mind—and neither did the authorities, it would seem.

    I realize that we’re talking about a movie, and a comedy at that. But isn’t this a little odd and somewhat disconcerting? What should we make of the
    fact that most of the people Hitler came into contact with greeted him
    warmly and enthusiastically? Does this reveal a worrying complacency with Hitler and his despicable legacy?

    Get this. Of the 300 hours of video footage of Hitler conversing with the German public, there were only two incidences of individuals responding negatively to this actor playing Hitler. One occurred in Bayreuth, Bavaria, where a man walked up to Hitler and said: “In the year 2014, if someone
    comes to the central square in Bayreuth pretending to be Hitler, and if that
    is tolerated by the general public, then I have to say: ‘This is bad for Germany’ 
 ‘and if it were up to me, I would have you chased off.’”

    This man’s point is absolutely legitimate, but what’s incredible is that only one man expressed it!

    During his interview with the Post, Wnendt—a German himself—shared how surprised he was by how many ordinary Germans had no qualms about conversing with Hitler, and at the same time expressed xenophobic, racist views about foreigners living in Germany. One woman complained that Germany’s problems were the result of foreigners living in Germany. One man explained that immigrants from Africa had caused Germany’s IQ to drop by 20 percent.
    Another complained that foreigners could do whatever they wanted because Germans were too full of guilt about World War ii. “We Germans are not allowed to open our mouths because we still have that stigma,” he said.

    These people made these remarks on camera, while in conversation with a man made to look like Adolf Hitler.

    Another thing too: This entire movie was filmed in the summer of 2014—long before the current migrant crisis!

    One scene in particular caught Wnendt by surprise. The aim of the scene was
    to see if Hitler could persuade a group of soccer fans to assault a man (another actor) who was making anti-German remarks. Wnendt recalled how surprised he was by how quickly Hitler was able to incite the young Germans
    to violence. If Hitler didn’t step in, Wnendt recalls, they would have
    beaten up this man.

    “The largely positive reaction to Hitler among Germans may remind some of
    the way Mao Zedong is treated in China, or Joseph Stalin in some parts of Russia—as a kitsh curio,” the Post reported. “These extreme opinions are not
    coming from the fringes, but from the center,’ Wnendt explained. [They’re] not neo-Nazis, but normal middle-class people.”

    Again, isn’t this disconcerting? It seems that Adolf Hitler, one of the cruelest men in history and a man once met with repulsion and disgust, is
    today more of a curiosity and amusement. According to Wnendt, ‘If you put
    him [Hitler] on a T-shirt, I think people would buy it.” This film, and its terrific success, reveals an alarming complacency—and even an affinity—for Hitler. This film, and the millions who watch it, trivialize the history of Hitler, the murder of 6 million Jews, and the entire history of World War
    ii. The history of the Holocaust includes some of the most despicable
    behavior ever committed by humans. Shouldn’t that history be untouchable, at least by comedians? Isn’t it a little worrying that there is a healthy appetite for these sorts of films? Shouldn’t we be concerned that in 2015 Germany, Hitler sells?

    “It’s hard to say just how many people in Germany openly, or behind closed doors, support the NDP [a far-right party with neo-Nazi views] and how many would tell you over a beer that things under Hitler really weren’t that bad,” Deutsche Welle wrote. “What the film makes clear—albeit in an over-the-top way—is that Nazi criminal Adolf Hitler is actually not quite as omniscient as we Germans tend to believe.”

    Hitler is making a comeback right now in another way too. On January 1, Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Hitler’s defining manifesto outlining his radical views—and his ambitions—will enter the public domain. The copyright for Mein
    Kampf has been held by the state of Bavaria since the war, but when it
    expires December 31, the book will be available to publish and distribute. There has been an ongoing debate in Germany over whether or not Mein Kampf should be allowed to be published. Some, mainly Jews and Jewish
    organizations, want the book to be banned. They fear it could open a Pandora’s
    box of issues and troubles. But the majority—arguing in the interests of freedom of speech and freedom of the press—believe Mein Kampf ought to be published and made freely available.

    So, starting next year, Mein Kampf will be available for purchase in German
    and French.

    What are we to make of this newfound fascination in Germany with Adolf
    Hitler? Should we be concerned that the German people, in general, seem to
    view Adolf Hitler with curiosity and amusement and, in many cases,
    affection? I discussed this issue earlier this week on the Trumpet Daily
    Radio Show. Since Monday, I’ve had three to four e-mails from listeners supporting the suggestion that more Germans than most people realize have a soft spot for Hitler. One man commented: “Make no mistake; the belief that Hitler was a ‘good leader’ is very prevalent in Germany! I was married to a German (in another lifetime). Her parents, middle-class, hard-working
    people, held just that view—[that] Hitler was a good leader. He did much
    good for the country. That is a view that has never been eradicated from the German thinking.”

    https://tinyurl.com/y2ekgkmj

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@1:229/2 to Chief Crazy Nigger From The Reserve on Tuesday, November 05, 2019 10:36:31
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    From: NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov

    On 11/5/19 9:50 AM, Chief Crazy Nigger From The Reserve wrote:
    Leroy N. Soetoro wrote

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/21/congressman-native-
    a
    merican-
    when-political-correctness-runs-amok-erasing-our-history-
    doesn
    t-change- it.html
    Confederates lost. Don't celebrate traitors, slavers and
    losers.



    Americans should renounce Confederate leaders the same way
    Germans renounce Hitler

    Ever wonder why there are no statues of Adolf Hitler in Berlin?

    You ignore the FACT that slavery was legal under King George and under
    the United States FLAG and the Confederacy was defending it's STATES
    RIGHTS to decide whether to allow or NOT allow slavery as the
    Constitution was designed.

    The dispute was NOT evil given the era, slavery was common around the
    world.... and while we look back and consider it barbaric we also think barbarism was awful.... so placing your moral code on history is just
    simple ignorance. You should look at it as an evolution as Obama told
    you he was evolving and now accepted gay marriage.

    That doesn't mean that yesterday Obama was evil and barbaric but today
    he's a hero.

    It appears the whole problem with destroying history and changing out traditions and doing all that by force by criminal acts or by Government
    acts are a case of ignorance rather than being woke. It seems to me
    that the entire idea of being woke is just another excuse for being
    ignorant.

    --
    That's Karma


    *Rumination*
    146 - Liberalism is the ideology of mediocrity disguised as equality.

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  • From KWills Shill #2@1:229/2 to NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov on Wednesday, November 06, 2019 01:45:48
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    From: compuelf@gmail.con

    On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 10:36:31 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty
    <NOT-SURE@idiocracy.gov> wrote:

    On 11/5/19 9:50 AM, Chief Crazy Nigger From The Reserve wrote:
    Leroy N. Soetoro wrote

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/21/congressman-native-
    a
    merican-
    when-political-correctness-runs-amok-erasing-our-history-
    doesnt-change- it.html
    Confederates lost. Don't celebrate traitors, slavers and
    losers.



    Americans should renounce Confederate leaders the same way
    Germans renounce Hitler

    Ever wonder why there are no statues of Adolf Hitler in Berlin?

    [Piggy back reply]

    Are you honestly trying to compare Confederate President Davis
    with Hitler?
    Please cite where Davis attempted any form of genocide.


    You ignore the FACT that slavery was legal under King George and under
    the United States FLAG and the Confederacy was defending it's STATES
    RIGHTS to decide whether to allow or NOT allow slavery as the
    Constitution was designed.


    Actually, slavery was a very minor aspect. Lincoln wasn't even
    interested in freeing the slaves. He did want to prevent the expansion
    of slavery, but that's not the same as wanting to free the slaves.

    The dispute was NOT evil given the era, slavery was common around the >world.... and while we look back and consider it barbaric we also think >barbarism was awful.... so placing your moral code on history is just
    simple ignorance. You should look at it as an evolution as Obama told
    you he was evolving and now accepted gay marriage.


    It is dishonest to judge the culture of the past by the culture
    of today.

    That doesn't mean that yesterday Obama was evil and barbaric but today
    he's a hero.

    It appears the whole problem with destroying history and changing out >traditions and doing all that by force by criminal acts or by Government
    acts are a case of ignorance rather than being woke. It seems to me
    that the entire idea of being woke is just another excuse for being
    ignorant.

    It is a rather stupid concept.

    --
    Shill #2 (recently promoted).
    Los Angeles Branch.
    Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
    counselor.
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
    All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

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